[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

  • From: Tristram Llewellyn <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:45:05 +0000

Granted Georgie is the Guide type approach that can have its limitations for 
some people (especially a very technical audience like this email list) but 
there are also tons of people out there that just want to use a phone as a 
communication aid that works for the few tasks they need to do.  They don't 
want to know about phone operating systems, Ice Cream Sandwich this and 
accessibility that.  Also a mobile phone is a slightly more limited stage than 
say a desktop computer and there are certainly many I have come across who 
don't want the bother of wrestling with apps and phone functions, they just 
want something that is more accessible than an old style feature phone.

For those who want to have full access to phone applications, settings etc. 
they can do so via other means on Android or buy an iPhone etc.  The point 
being that both ends of the needs spectrum are served on what are now the 
dominant touch screen form factor.

Regards.

Tristram Llewellyn
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Iain Lackie
Sent: 15 July 2012 23:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

That misses the point. The screenreader aims to make the phone or computer 
accessible as far as it is possible to do so. The choice of what is used is 
left to the user. What we might call for the sake of this argument the 
"Guide" approach makes choices as to what the user might want to use. It is 
the same difference between an extracted talking newspaper where someone 
else has made an editorial choice as to what you will get and the whole text 
of the newspaper where the reader makes the choices of what he/she wants to 
read.

The problem with the "guide" approach is that though it offers what appears 
to be a quick start in getting things done, the user is stuffed when he/she 
wants to do anything outside the capabilities of the program. This is why so 
many people find themselves progressing from Guide to a screenreading 
program such as NVDA or even a paid-for program.



Iain
-----Original Message----- 
From: Eleanor Burke
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:06 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

You use a screen reader for blind people. Do you not like Talks software for 
the blind either?
-----Original message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent:  15/07/2012, 10:57  pm
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People


I really don't want a "special" mobile phone for blind people.

Alex



From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tom Lorimer
Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People



Hi Jeff,



Try this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279



Tom.



----- Original Message ----- 

From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>

To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM

Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People



My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile phone,
with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in London.

Does anybody know anything about it?

Jeff


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