[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:53:45 +0100

Hi,

There is only one now, the Nokia C5, and that is now at end of life.  We can
still get them though for the moment.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jim
Sent: 16 July 2012 15:27
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Steve,

I'm not a touchy feely person so these phones are not for me.  Which, in
your opinion, are the best phones with a proper numeric keyboard and speech
access.

Jim Williams

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 15 July 2012 18:47
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi,

Yes, I love the Nexus. But touch screens are not for everybody, I appreciate
that.  But if you can get into them, there are some pretty awesome phones
around now, the Nexus, the Galaxy S3, to name just two.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
jeff flint
Sent: 15 July 2012 18:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Steve
am I write in thinking that you like the Galaxy Nexus?
I utterly failed with the IPHONE, just too fiddly for me, and the battery
died every two minutes or so, huge exaggeration but you know what I mean.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People


> Hi,
>
> Not yet. That's what Sight Village is all about <Smile>.  We will have 
> podcasts on it after SV.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of william lomas
> Sent: 15 July 2012 17:51
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
> do you have a podcast on jellybean steve on our place?
>
> On 15 Jul 2012, at 17:48, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jackie,
>>
>> Yes, I have seen it twice.
>>
>> Once in March when the apps were under the banner of Safe And Sound, 
>> and I was invited to the Georgie launch last week, where I played 
>> with the phone for about 10 minutes in London.
>>
>> Yes, it is just a suite of apps, as I said, bit like Guide.  It has 
>> some
> odd
>> quirks about it.  For example, it supports audio blogging but not Email?
> It
>> also has no facility to input to the phone other than dialing 
>> numbers,
> other
>> than your voice.  So you can't write a text message, since it has no 
>> keyboard, you have to speak it.  So if you are on a train, or have an
> attack
>> of laryngitis, or simply don't want to tell the world you are texting 
>> your lover, it's a bit tricky <Smile>.  It has one or two interesting 
>> apps,
> such
>> as OCR and grabbing data from the Nextbus database, but nothing that 
>> would be compelling.
>>
>> And all this on a Galaxy Nexus, one of the best phones in the world.  
>> It
> was
>> a little bit bizarre to see such a nice phone brought to its knees
> <Smile>.
>>
>> Google's accessibility I would say with the advent of Jellybean, is 
>> almost as good as the iPhone.  But Georgie basically disables that 
>> and puts you into a nice comfortable walled garden.
>>
>> It's not for me, but I'm sure it will be for some, expensive though 
>> it is.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf
> Of
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 15 July 2012 15:39
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Hi Steve
>>
>> Then you have obviously seen it?  From purely a user perspective, why 
>> do
> you
>> pull it apart?
>>
>> I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and 
>> Android
> have
>> already done to make accessibility possible.  The fact it is also 
>> named after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it.  For 
>> so long,
> we
>> have wanted to be on a level playing field.  Now this is possible 
>> thanks
> to
>> Nuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will cost
> quite
>> a lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store.
>>
>> But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf
> Of
>> Steve Nutt
>> Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Hi Jackie and all,
>>
>> If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please 
>> listen to our podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace.
>>
>> The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3.
>>
>> Angie and I pretty much pull it apart.  The apps seem good, but the 
>> press coverage is misleading.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf
> Of
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Hi Eleanor
>>
>> I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it.  
>> It seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and 
>> that there are different bundles one may purchase.
>>
>> As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we 
>> just wondered what was different with this new setup to what is 
>> already out there.  But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes 
>> to report back,
> that
>> would be helpful certainly.  I have friends not subscribed to this 
>> list
> who
>> might benefit from good feedback.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf
> Of
>> Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>>
>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>
>>> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it.  I have to say it's easily 
>>> forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money.
>>>
>>> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how 
>>> much voice assistance there is, you are still  using a touch-screen 
>>> from what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for 
>>> those with dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want 
>>> to use a touch-screen.  I was really wondering if anyone had come 
>>> across it so they could say.  If it has a place that bridges the gap 
>>> for some folk, then fine, but it just made me wonder why.
>>>
>>> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on 
>>> display at least.  Perhaps someone could report back?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>
>>> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall 
>>> that dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB.  I nearly bought 
>>> it as my first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't.  Maybe 
>>> someone has decided that blind people again need something basic.  I 
>>> have to say I love the Symbian Nokia phones.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>
>>>
>>>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is 
>>>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something?  Why 
>>>> have a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually 
>>>> impaired people with specific apps when  you can already access 
>>>> either Apple or Android handsets?
>>>> Hoping
>>>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition 
>>>> to what is already out there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer
>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> Try this link:
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279
>>>>
>>>> Tom.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>
>>>> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new 
>>>> mobile phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last 
>>>> Thursday in London.
>>>> Does anybody know anything about it?
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
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