Don't want to waiste your time, or anyone elses over this, but I'll just throw out to quickies. Looking at Disability Now's website - which seems to have much to commend it - I couldn't help wondering if some sort of conversion to HTML, XHMXHTML, mightn't benefit you almost as much as PDF. As far as I recall though, you have a bit of sight so no doubt you can get a good idea of the loook look of an article, as well as its content, and getting down to the content and style, which of course you have to be able to read. Wonder if you have put anything out on the BCAB list? Might be some there, and one or two in the media and who have to work along side those preparing for DTP layout programs and interchanging with them. There's some hope Leonie will chip in if any of this helps you at all in the least. Cheers, and do hope you come up with a workable solution. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Ian Macrae Ray, you're right about the Mac issue. But the whole point of proofing is that you have to see files in the final form in which they'll ultimately be sent to pre-press and then the printers. I've already tried turning the files into text but that process in itself generates errors which aren't there in the PDF originals. One option might be to emboss the files into hard copy Braille from the PDFs, but again it would require a very accurate transcription programme. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray's Home To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS I fear it isn't much help to assk what format these files, or master documents are in before they've been converted to PDF, is it? I only ask because maybe rather than giving them to you in PDF they could be saved, maybe, from the format they were created in? Maybe to RTF or something? I've a horrible feeling this could bring in issues of what platform others are working with. A Mac maybe? (NOt blaming Macs as such, just that, maybe they see PDF as the natural choice of interchange. Still, won't speculate further, as that's all it is. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 2 November 2007 8:58PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS To elaborate my problem, I have to finally proof read pages for a magazine before they're committed to Quark Express files for pre-press and printing. It simply doesn't seem possible with Jaws V8 and PDF? I'd imagine Quark is even less likely to be a runner? does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Of course, the whoe point of proofing is accuracy otherwise I'd print them and run them through K1000. ----- Original Message ----- From: Léonie Watson To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS Ian, As Adrian says, resolution isn't known to affect the accessibility of a PDF. The font face may be a factor though. Some fonts can be harder for a screen reader to pick up and interpret, particularly the more ornate ones. Just a thought. Regards, Tink. From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 02 November 2007 15:19 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] PDF & JAWS Does the resolution of a PDF file make any difference to Jaws 8['s ability to read it? Ian Macrae Editor Disability Now +44 20 7619 7115 +447795 968743 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Scope is a registered charity number 208231. 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