[access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS

  • From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 06:04:30 -0000

Ian, I wouldn't personally consider embossing the files for an accurate 
transcription.  I've been there and tried it, and you get snagged up with 
codes.  Halfway down a document happily clattering away, the embosser stopped, 
and I discovered a hidden code in the text made the Braille software throw a 
wobbler! I must say that was the final straw for me and why I gave up embossing 
documents I needed to seriously proof-read.

The harsh reality, and it may sound negative, is that I don't think there is an 
accurate way of proof-reading with the tools available to us.  If there is, 
then bring it on. (smile).

Jackie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ian Macrae 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:40 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS


  Ray, you're right about the Mac issue.  But the whole point of proofing is 
that you have to see files in the final form in which they'll ultimately be 
sent to pre-press and then the printers.  I've already tried turning the files 
into text but that process in itself generates errors which aren't there in the 
PDF originals.  One option might be to emboss the files into hard copy Braille 
from the PDFs, but again it would require a very accurate transcription 
programme.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ray's Home 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:13 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS


    I fear it isn't much help to assk what format these files, or master 
documents are in before they've been converted to PDF, is it?

    I only ask because maybe rather than giving them to you in PDF they could 
be saved, maybe, from the format they were created in?  Maybe to RTF or 
something?

    I've a horrible feeling this could bring in issues of what platform others 
are working with. A Mac maybe?  (NOt blaming Macs as such, just that, maybe 
they see PDF as the natural choice of interchange.  Still, won't speculate 
further, as that's all it is.

    Cheers,

    From Ray 
    I can be contacted off-list at: 
    mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx 

      -----Original Message-----
      From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf 
Of Ian Macrae
      Sent: 2 November 2007 8:58PM
      To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS


      To elaborate my problem, I have to finally proof read pages for a 
magazine before they're committed to Quark Express files for pre-press and 
printing.  It simply doesn't seem possible with Jaws V8 and PDF?  I'd imagine 
Quark is even less likely to be a runner?  does anyone have any suggestions or 
ideas?  Of course, the  whoe point of proofing is accuracy otherwise I'd print 
them and run them through K1000.  
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Léonie Watson 
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:56 PM
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS


        Ian,

            As Adrian says, resolution isn't known to affect the accessibility 
of a PDF. The font face may be a factor though. Some fonts can be harder for a 
screen reader to pick up and interpret, particularly the more ornate ones. Just 
a thought.

        Regards,
        Tink.



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        From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Ian Macrae
        Sent: 02 November 2007 15:19
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [access-uk] PDF & JAWS


        Does the resolution of a PDF file make any difference to Jaws 8['s 
ability to read it?

        Ian Macrae
        Editor
        Disability Now
        +44 20 7619 7115
        +447795 968743




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