Ian, just a short addendum to my last message. Not sure whether you can read the documents in question at all, but if it is a case of not being able to read everything or stuff's being jumbled, then have you tried the various options under documents - accessability options? You can change the way the PDF reader handles formatting and such there. Other thing to ask, are you using 8.1 of the reader? It is perplexing aand a bit worrying if people cannot read docs that should be readable. (Whether the Mac application and printing to PDF is to blame, who knows? If only we had people around who've experienced this sort of thing. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Ian Macrae Ray, you're right about the Mac issue. But the whole point of proofing is that you have to see files in the final form in which they'll ultimately be sent to pre-press and then the printers. I've already tried turning the files into text but that process in itself generates errors which aren't there in the PDF originals. One option might be to emboss the files into hard copy Braille from the PDFs, but again it would require a very accurate transcription programme. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray's Home To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS I fear it isn't much help to assk what format these files, or master documents are in before they've been converted to PDF, is it? I only ask because maybe rather than giving them to you in PDF they could be saved, maybe, from the format they were created in? Maybe to RTF or something? I've a horrible feeling this could bring in issues of what platform others are working with. A Mac maybe? (NOt blaming Macs as such, just that, maybe they see PDF as the natural choice of interchange. Still, won't speculate further, as that's all it is. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 2 November 2007 8:58PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS To elaborate my problem, I have to finally proof read pages for a magazine before they're committed to Quark Express files for pre-press and printing. It simply doesn't seem possible with Jaws V8 and PDF? I'd imagine Quark is even less likely to be a runner? does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Of course, the whoe point of proofing is accuracy otherwise I'd print them and run them through K1000. ----- Original Message ----- From: Léonie Watson To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS Ian, As Adrian says, resolution isn't known to affect the accessibility of a PDF. The font face may be a factor though. Some fonts can be harder for a screen reader to pick up and interpret, particularly the more ornate ones. Just a thought. Regards, Tink. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 02 November 2007 15:19 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] PDF & JAWS Does the resolution of a PDF file make any difference to Jaws 8['s ability to read it? Ian Macrae Editor Disability Now +44 20 7619 7115 +447795 968743 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Scope is a registered charity number 208231. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the views of Scope. __________ NOD32 2634 (20071102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ NOD32 2634 (20071102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com