[AR] Re: fatigue life (was Re: Re: SpaceX F9 Launch/Update...)

  • From: Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 22:20:04 -0700

On 12/27/2015 9:26 PM, Henry Spencer wrote:

On Sun, 27 Dec 2015, Henry Vanderbilt wrote:
Engines can to a considerable extent be life-tested on the ground. A
much larger unknown (as Bill has pointed out) is the fatigue lifetime
of the structure and tankage... The tricky thing is, whether (and
where, and how well hidden) F9 first stage might (or might not) have
its equivalent of the old Comet airliner's square-cornered windows - a
place where fatal fatigue builds up under flight cycles much faster
than expected.

That can also be tested on the ground, to some extent, if you understand
the flight loads halfway well: dedicate a fatigue-test airframe to
sitting in a hangar being flexed by hydraulic jacks, so that it builds
up cycles much faster than the flight vehicles. When that was done for
the Comet -- it wasn't a routine part of aircraft development then --
the window-corner fatigue failure was successfully duplicated.

Replicating some aspects of the rocket flight environment (notably the
vibration) admittedly might be difficult.

There are also pressure-cycles on the tankage and plumbing, as well as thermal cycles on the variously cryo-cooled and aero-heated portions of the structure. And aero and acoustic loads at points where those are significant. And vibrations, which as you point out, can be hard to simulate - engine vibrations especially, on sheer power and bandwidth requirements, but aero also - going supersonic is not a gentle process.

It might actually be easier, cheaper, and more effective to come up with a boilerplate upper-stage mass&aerodynamics simulator, then instrument the hell out of a first stage and fly it repeatedly till things start breaking.

Probably out of Texas, so this doesn't get in the way of Cape operations.


Henry V

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