[AR] Re: fatigue life (was Re: Re: SpaceX F9 Launch/Update...)

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 23:54:47 -0500 (EST)

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015, Richard Garcia wrote:

Allowing the inner wall to expand may ameliorate the problem but does not eliminate it...

That's why I said "much of the problem". :-) How much remains, due to differential expansion in the wall itself, depends on details of materials and design.

... What would really help is reducing the thermal gradient across the wall. The best way to do that would be to make it out of something very thermally conductive (i.e. copper) and to make it as thin as possible...

I would say the *best* way to do that would be to keep hot gas away from the wall, reducing heat flow through it, since the gradient is more or less thermal resistance (fixed by materials and dimensions) times heat flux. Of course, the ways to fend off hot gas, like film cooling, all come at a price; it may be worth it. For example, P&W's SSME proposal used transpiration cooling to give its inner walls essentially unlimited life -- the SSME spec called for 400 cycles and P&W felt that this was impossible with just milled channels.

That thinness is where you start to run into trouble. Making the thrust chamber walls thinner than some copper milled wall chambers already are (less that 0.075") will limit what chamber pressure you can run at, sacrificing performance.

One caveat: if I'm not mistaken, there's a hidden assumption here, that there's a significant pressure difference (proportional to the chamber pressure) across the inner wall. That's true of orthodox designs, but it's not absolutely inevitable. Put a final pump stage between the cooling jacket and the chamber, or use a separate fluid loop and a propellant heat exchanger for cooling, or do dump cooling with LH2 -- just exhaust it through an auxiliary nozzle rather than trying to burn it. All of these concepts have their own problems, but they're not ridiculous (dump cooling in particular has been flown), and all permit nearly zero pressure difference across the wall (perhaps only at one particular point along its length).

State of the art, high performance, milled channel , nickle backed thrust chambers can usually get around 100 runs before cracks start showing up from thermal cycling induced fatigue.

Of course, there's always the option of backing off on performance. As of 1990 -- don't have more recent data -- there were RL10s at P&W with over 200 cycles on them, still in good shape, with stainless-steel tube-bundle walls. They thought then that qualification for 300 cycles of operational use was feasible at the original 15klb thrust, although fatigue would become an issue at higher thrusts (as in the RL10B) -- that engine was somewhat overbuilt for 15klbf.

In aviation, it's routine to back off on performance to improve operating life and safety. Nobody's delighted about doing it, but it's just necessary, so nobody blinks at it. Rocketry has some way to go yet. :-)

Henry

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