Roger, the screen reader on the iPhone is known as Voiceover. Siri is the voice
control system. Those are two different things. With Voiceover turned on
whenever you touch any item on the screen it will tell you what you are
touching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9jwJxgs4Ks
Frank
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Oh, another question. How useful is Siri? Am I spelling that right? It would be
a lot better if as you make your gestures on the touch screen she would tell
you what your fingers are passing over. Based on the chatter I pick up on these
email lists I am thinking that she probably does not help in that way.
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Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through disbelief
and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were so! Your
patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply a child's
wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the eveastingly
bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory scientifically
demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had not the courage to
follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must realize that we
created God, and that all of us together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D.
Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept On 6/11/2021 10:13 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:
Roger, I use an Apple iPhone. It cost me a ton of money, about 5 times what I
paid for my first car and the reason I chose it is that my employer mandates
that we all have one. It is easy to use but the product lifecycle is only a
few years.
Frank
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Phone ideas?
I have a question. Maybe I should say questions plural. On a list where
people think that fifty-two-year-old music recordings are something new this
might not be the best place to ask, but I am not subscribed to any lists
right now where this would be on topic. So since nothing is off topic here I
thought I would at least start here. My land line phone is acting up. Right
now I am lucky if I get a dial tone instead of some kind of mysterious
beeping and incoming calls are being cut off before I can answer. I have
called the phone company to fix it now twice and both times it started acting
up soon afterwards. So I am thinking that the problem might be in the
physical phone rather than the line. That would call for buying a new phone.
If I buy a new phone I am thinking that it might be about time for me to get
myself into the twenty-first century like everyone else and give up my land
line for a cell phone as my only phone. But if I do that I am going into it
blind in more ways than just that my eyes don't work. I have been wanting a
smart phone for a long time because I am fascinated by the many and varied
cool things that one can do with them, but they are expensive and I don't
trust myself to be able to learn using a touch screen very well. I always
have been a lot better at learning things that you know than I have been at
learning things you do. That is why I used to be able to take a lab and
lecture
course and ace the lecture and nearly flunk the lab. I know that there
are a lot of choices that are not smart phones too and some that actually
have buttons. I think I could get along much better with buttons. But I don't
know a lot about all the choices that are available and which work better for
a blind person. Most of the people I know are so sight oriented that they
can't imagine a blind person working any device. So does anyone on this list
have any advice? Do any of you use a cell phone yourselves? If so, can you
say something about why it was a good choice for you and how much it costs
and anything else you might have to say about it?
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Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through disbelief
and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were so! Your
patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply a child's
wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the eveastingly
bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory scientifically
demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had not the courage to
follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must realize that we
created God, and that all of us together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D.
Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept