[etni] Re: school grades
- From: maxinetz <maxinetz@xxxxxxx>
- To: lanart@xxxxxxxxxxxx, judyewc@xxxxxxxxx, etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:00:26 +0200
Your idea makes sense in principle but in practice I think I can predict
what will happen: the universities will calculate only the Bagrut grade.
We all know there is nothing in Israel similar to the American-style
admissions procedure, when the committees look at all the parameters of a
pupil's performance in high school and pupils are admitted or not on the
basis of the essays they write, the extracurricular activities they are
involved in, extenuating factors that might explain less than perfect
grades; in short, they look at you as a person, not only a GPA. Here you
are a number that the computer spits out based on the grades on your Bagrut
certificate.
So practically speaking I don't think there is a reasonable alternative to
the Magen grade or whatever you want to call it, as imperfect as it is.
Doing away with the Magen grade would turn every high school into a "beit
sefer externi."
All the best,
Maxine Tsvaigrach
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From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Iris Langer
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 5:43 PM
To: judyewc@xxxxxxxxx; etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [etni] Re: school grades
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments.
The school grade should most definitely count as a separate grade; many
students work very hard for this grade. However, it should not be averaged
into the "Bagrut" grade. There should be a Bagrut test grade made up of the
"Bagrut" test and"Matkonet" scores and a separate school grade. The
Universities should receive both grades and average them as they see fit.
Iris
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From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of judy
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:38 AM
To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [etni] Re: school grades
The problem is not that we have a school grade - the problem is that it is
not kept separate.
School grades show us a lot - how the student works, perseveres, improves,
invests effort, performs in class, etc. The Bagrut shows the grade of a
particular test.
Averaging them together is like taking half and apple and half an orange,
and gluing them together to create an "average fruit".
A help to average the Bagrut can be a matkonet test. That makes some
sense. The overall school grade should be taken into consideration, as a
separate entity alongside the Bagrut, by college/univeristy acceptance
committees. But then, of course, they will have to work a little harder.
How could we expect that? What are they, teachers or something?
Judy Cohen
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"Music will save the world." Pablo Casals
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