[gps-talkusers] Re: maps on the server or the phone

  • From: Kawal Gucukoglu <kawal_g@xxxxxx>
  • To: "gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:20:30 +0100

Also, you have to remember that data plans are different throughout the world, 
as my understanding is that in the US Data plans are capped where as in the UK, 
some plans are capped and others are not.  I am on an unlimited plan plus in 
Europe and the UK 4 G is either here or on the way.  With this in mind, Sendero 
have to think about what is practical and most easier to implement as things 
change all the time.

Kawal.

On 19 Jul 2013, at 03:12 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Personally, I am fine with the way things are now. The places where cell 
> coverage is not available are few and far between, and, if you want the 
> benefits of a smart phone, you have to be willing to pay for a data plan in 
> most cases, that's just the way it works.
> Original message:
> 
>> Please change the subject line to match the subject.
> 
>> A point of clarification.
> 
>> It is not that having maps on the phone is not acceptable to the folks at 
>> Sendero. As most of you know, we are big fans of maps on a device. All of 
>> our other products have maps resident on the device. We have certainly been 
>> criticized for that too. There are trade offs of either approach.
> 
>> Because of our arrangement with Mapquest, we had to go with an approach of 
>> maps on the server. There are benefits to that now and others in the future. 
>> The battery drain has a lot to do with our frequent accessing of the server, 
>> which most people should want. We recognize this issue and are open to 
>> future changes including having some or all of the data on the phone, which 
>> will in exchange, take up a good amount of memory on your device.
> 
>> Mike
> 
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanner, David (DEED)
>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:18 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Fwd: Your receipt No.140055939825
> 
>> But, haven’t we already been told that having the maps on the phone is not 
>> an option that is acceptable to the folks at Sendero. That means there will 
>> always be a big drain on the battery and a large amount of data usage due to 
>> this being the way the app works.
> 
>> So, you are paying for an app that will also cost more and demand more from 
>> your data plan if you use it frequently, and mean that the phone now can be 
>> used for GPS, but you may not have enough battery power to make a phone call.
> 
>> David Tanner
> 
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
> 
>> Minnesota State Services for the Blind
> 
>> Office: (651) 642-0795 - Cell (651) 270-2233
> 
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W
>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:51 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Fwd: Your receipt No.140055939825
> 
>> The drain might be a little less with Navigon because maps are stored on the 
>> phone, so it doesn’t need to keep calling the server for map data.
> 
>> Andy
> 
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Paula Mack
>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:47 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Fwd: Your receipt No.140055939825
> 
>> Well, I have no such problems with Navigon or with BlindSquare so it's worth 
>> a try. I am sorry for sending it to the list though.
> 
>> Paula Mack
> 
>> On FaceBook: pm3456
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>> On Twitter: pm3456
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>> On Skype: psm3456
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>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2013, at 5:39 PM, "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco@xxxxxx 
>> <mailto:Andrew.Baracco@xxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>> I guess someone’s trying to get a refund, but it ain’t gonna happen. It 
>> is a known fact that GPS aps drain the battery, especially when used in 
>> conjunction with a Bluetooth headset, and or keyboard.
> 
>> Andy
> 
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:28 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Fwd: Your receipt No.140055939825
> 
>> Wy was this sent to the list?
> 
>> On 18 Jul 2013, at 07:35 PM, Paula Mack <pmack870@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:pmack870@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sheri, here is my receipt from the iTunes store.
>> I appreciate your help with this matter.
>> I had problems with excessive battery drain using the app because I wasn't 
>> able to use the app in lock mode.
>> Regards, Paula
> 
> 
>> Paula Mack
> 
>> On FaceBook: pm3456
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>> On Twitter: pm3456
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>> On Skype: psm3456
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>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: iTunes Store <do_not_reply@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:do_not_reply@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>> Date: July 3, 2013, 7:38:44 PM EDT
>> To: pmack870@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:pmack870@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Your receipt No.140055939825
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>> Billed To:
> 
>> pmack870@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:pmack870@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Paula Mack
>> 76 Burton Street
>> Bristol, RI 02809-2023
>> USA
> 
>> Order ID: MHH7F14G3X
>> Receipt Date: 07/03/13
>> Order Total: $139.09
>> Billed To: Visa .... 3758
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>> Item
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>> Seller
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>> Type
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>> Unit Price
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>> Seeing Eye GPS, Three Year Subscription
>> <image005.jpg>Report a Problem 
>> <https://buy.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZFinance.woa/wa/reportAProblem?p=86001707016535&a=668632089&s=1&d=282007066&pli=86003571708954&o=i>
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>> Sendero Group LLC
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>> In-App Purchase
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>> $129.99
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>> Subtotal:
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>> $129.99
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>> Tax:
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>> $9.10
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>> Order Total:
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>> $139.09
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