[gps-talkusers] Re: maps on the server or the phone
- From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:49:53 -0400
It's not just data and battery, either. As I understand it, the reason you
don't get upcoming intersections above 15 mile per hour, and the reason
intersection and route waypoint announcements can be so far off so often, is
the query method. The phone only contacts the server every fifteen seconds,
making it difficult to keep the user updated all the time, so the app errs on
the side of causion. I of course have no clue about the business side of all
this, but I do wonder why Sendero went with the map provider they did. With
this provider, we can't cache maps, we have fewer POIs, and we have to go with
the subscription model, making it difficult to impossible to implement a
cheap/free trial version of the app. From my perspective, it seems that a
better map provider would fix a lot of the problems users have had since the
app's release, but I'm sure Sendero considered all that when they chose to go
with the one they did and has their reasons for their choice.
On Jul 19, 2013, at 10:02 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I vote for a choice of some or all like in navigon you can do a state or
> several states just like you have in your sendero navigation products for the
> sens nav andothers.
>
> I use your new app seeing eye gps and it gobbles up battery life and navigon
> does not since I have the maps on the device. Also with the maps on the
> device those who have limited data do not use up their data traveling and
> using your great seeing eye gps app.
>
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 06:52
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] maps on the server or the phone
>
> Please change the subject line to match the subject.
> A point of clarification.
> It is not that having maps on the phone is not acceptable to the folks at
> Sendero. As most of you know, we are big fans of maps on a device. All of our
> other products have maps resident on the device. We have certainly been
> criticized for that too. There are trade offs of either approach.
>
> Because of our arrangement with Mapquest, we had to go with an approach of
> maps on the server. There are benefits to that now and others in the future.
> The battery drain has a lot to do with our frequent accessing of the server,
> which most people should want. We recognize this issue and are open to future
> changes including having some or all of the data on the phone, which will in
> exchange, take up a good amount of memory on your device.
>
> Mike
>
>
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanner, David (DEED)
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:18 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Fwd: Your receipt No.140055939825
>
> But, haven’t we already been told that having the maps on the phone is not an
> option that is acceptable to the folks at Sendero. That means there will
> always be a big drain on the battery and a large amount of data usage due to
> this being the way the app works.
>
> So, you are paying for an app that will also cost more and demand more from
> your data plan if you use it frequently, and mean that the phone now can be
> used for GPS, but you may not have enough battery power to make a phone call.
>
>
> David Tanner
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Minnesota State Services for the Blind
> Office: (651) 642-0795 - Cell (651) 270-2233
>
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:51 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Fwd: Your receipt No.140055939825
>
> The drain might be a little less with Navigon because maps are stored on the
> phone, so it doesn’t need to keep calling the server for map data.
>
> Andy
>
>
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paula Mack
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:47 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Fwd: Your receipt No.140055939825
>
> Well, I have no such problems with Navigon or with BlindSquare so it's worth
> a try. I am sorry for sending it to the list though.
>
> Paula Mack
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> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 18, 2013, at 5:39 PM, "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> I guess someone’s trying to get a refund, but it ain’t gonna happen. It is a
> known fact that GPS aps drain the battery, especially when used in
> conjunction with a Bluetooth headset, and or keyboard.
>
> Andy
>
>
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:28 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Fwd: Your receipt No.140055939825
>
> Wy was this sent to the list?
>
> On 18 Jul 2013, at 07:35 PM, Paula Mack <pmack870@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Sheri, here is my receipt from the iTunes store.
> I appreciate your help with this matter.
> I had problems with excessive battery drain using the app because I wasn't
> able to use the app in lock mode.
> Regards, Paula
>
>
> Paula Mack
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>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
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> Date: July 3, 2013, 7:38:44 PM EDT
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> Subject: Your receipt No.140055939825
>
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> Billed To:
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> Paula Mack
> 76 Burton Street
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> Receipt Date: 07/03/13
> Order Total: $139.09
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Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
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