[jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between landmarks
- From: "Travis Roth" <travis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:39:18 -0600
It sounds like you followed the correct protocol.
JAWSKey+Space&m is by default a select to mark scrip by JAWS.
Usually a .jkm file will override the default key assignments for that app.
So you may have uncovered a bug/feature that multi-layer keys cannot be
overridden?
Key assignments can only be made to scripts, not functions.
(Btw it appears jawskey+space&n is not bound to anything...)
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From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:08 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
landmarks
Thanks Sina. I've edited the firefox.jkm file in a text editor to add the
following:
JawsKey+Space&m=MoveToMain
Where MoveToMain is the name of my script. I've saved the .jkm file and
recompiled my firefox.jss file (just for completeness). The firefox.jss file
includes the following:
Script MoveToMain ()
MoveToTagWithAttribute (s_top, "main", "role", true) SayMessage (OT_MESSAGE,
"Start of main content area", "Main content area") EndScript
When I try this, Jaws says "Set a temporary place marker with Control +
Windows + k, then you can select between that place and your current
location".
I'm wondering if the layered keystroke should be attached to a function,
rather than a script? That seems a bit inspecific though. Otherwise, I'm
completely mystified now. Any ideas?
Léonie.
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
Sent: 17 November 2012 17:45
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
landmarks
Sure, so, the general JKM format is simply the first standard keystroke
combination for the layer, followed by the second or third with ampersand
characters delimiting them per layer.
Here's a single layer in the form of the flexible web dialog:
JAWSKey+Space&X=DoFlexibleWebDialog
If you want multiple layers, for example, let's say you want to make
yourself a little test environment or sandbox layer to just put all your
keystrokes in without polluting the rest of the namespace, then you can do
multiple layers like the below OCR example:
JAWSKey+Space&O&W=RecognizeRealWindow
I hope that helps.
Take care,
Sina
Website: www.SinaBahram.com
Twitter: @SinaBahram
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:34 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
landmarks
Thanks Sina. Agree avoiding Jaws key m is a good idea.
Could you tell me how to bind a script to a layered keystroke though? I
can't seem to do it using the create script dialogue. It recognises Insert +
space, but not the layered m.
I haven't been able to find anything about layered keystrokes in the help
manual (yet), or by Googling.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Léonie.
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From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
Sent: 15 November 2012 21:16
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
landmarks
insert+space is layered, so you'll have to express it that way, not just
insert+as insert+space. I think some others will respond though,
so I'll check back to make sure you're good on this, if it doesn't work for
you. be careful of stuff like jawsKey+m, as that can map to priorCharacter
in laptop layout.
Website: www.SinaBahram.com
Twitter: @SinaBahram
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:42 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
landmarks
Thanks Sina and Travis. I've been experimenting with that function, but I'm
having some trouble getting it to work.
I'm currently using it to create a shortcut to move to the <body> element,
since I know that should be in Jaws' list of tags. I've added a script to
the firefox.jss file, and from within it I've called that function.
Script MoveToMain ()
MoveToTag (s_top, "body")
EndScript
It's currently bound to Jaws key + m as a keystroke. I've compiled the
script, checked the keyboard manager to confirm the keystroke is tied to the
script, and tested it in Firefox.
Guessing I'm missing something obvious. Any suggestions?
On a related note, Sina suggested binding it to Jaws key + space, m. I don't
seem to be able to replicate that keystroke in the key assignment field of
the create script dialogue though. It recognises the Jaws key + space, but
not the additional keystroke.
Léonie.
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From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
Sent: 15 November 2012 00:06
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
landmarks
Hi,
JAWS has a MoveToTag() function.
You could try something like
MoveToTag (s_top, "main")
I am not sure if JAWS loads any tag it finds into its tag list, or only
officially recognized HTML tags, but you could try and find what happens...
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From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:59 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
landmarks
Good evening,
I?d like to create a proof of concept script for Jaws. It?s to demonstrate
how Jaws might support a new HTML5 element that?s been proposed.
I think there are two possible options. Either to modify the script that
handles navigation between landmarks on web pages with the semi colon quick
nav key, or to write a new script that introduces a new quick nav key based
on the proposed element.
A potential catch is that this new element doesn?t exist yet, so there is no
browser support for it. Jaws would need to take it from the HTML because no
information will be available via the browser?s accessibility API.
If this is something that?s likely to be browser specific, Firefox is my
preferred browser for developing this proof of concept functionality.
I?m an occasional Jaws scripter, but it?s been a long time since I used it
in anger. I?d appreciate any advice on the best approach to take,
scripts/functions I would need to modify, and any pitfalls I should be aware
of.
I?ve searched the list archives (and will keep trying), but if there is
existing information around this anywhere, links and/or reading material
happily received as well. Thanks.
Léonie.
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