[jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between landmarks
- From: Don Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 15:25:39 -0500
Sirry, yhe layered keys, JAWS + Space & c, is also taken in JAWS 14! It
presents the clipboard in a virtual window. Press JAWS + Space &
question mark (?) for a list of keys that are taken.
*Don Marang*
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
<http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
On 11/17/2012 3:15 PM, Léonie Watson wrote:
> Thanks Travis and Sina.
>
> You're right Sina, JAWSKey+Space&m is already assigned to something. I
> misheard your warning, and thought you meant JAWSKey+m.
>
>
> Thanks for the tip about JAWSKey+Space&n being available Travis. I've opted
> for JAWSKey+Space&c though, because c is a better mnemonic for content.
>
> Thanks both for all your help with this though. Much appreciated.
>
>
> Léonie.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: 17 November 2012 18:59
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> *smile*, remember how I told you m was a bad idea? JawsKey+space&M is
> already taken, I'm afraid. It highlights from the placemarker to current
> virtual cursor position.
>
> Just pick something else, and you'll be fine.
>
> Try the layered keystroke out before you assign it. alternatively, turn on
> keyboard help, jawskey+1 and try it out there so that you can see the thing
> it maps to. If it's undefined, use that.
>
>
> Website: www.SinaBahram.com
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:08 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> Thanks Sina. I've edited the firefox.jkm file in a text editor to add the
> following:
>
> JawsKey+Space&m=MoveToMain
>
> Where MoveToMain is the name of my script. I've saved the .jkm file and
> recompiled my firefox.jss file (just for completeness). The firefox.jss file
> includes the following:
>
> Script MoveToMain ()
> MoveToTagWithAttribute (s_top, "main", "role", true) SayMessage (OT_MESSAGE,
> "Start of main content area", "Main content area") EndScript
>
> When I try this, Jaws says "Set a temporary place marker with Control +
> Windows + k, then you can select between that place and your current
> location".
>
> I'm wondering if the layered keystroke should be attached to a function,
> rather than a script? That seems a bit inspecific though. Otherwise, I'm
> completely mystified now. Any ideas?
>
> Léonie.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: 17 November 2012 17:45
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> Sure, so, the general JKM format is simply the first standard keystroke
> combination for the layer, followed by the second or third with ampersand
> characters delimiting them per layer.
>
> Here's a single layer in the form of the flexible web dialog:
>
> JAWSKey+Space&X=DoFlexibleWebDialog
>
> If you want multiple layers, for example, let's say you want to make
> yourself a little test environment or sandbox layer to just put all your
> keystrokes in without polluting the rest of the namespace, then you can do
> multiple layers like the below OCR example:
>
> JAWSKey+Space&O&W=RecognizeRealWindow
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> Website: www.SinaBahram.com
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:34 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> Thanks Sina. Agree avoiding Jaws key m is a good idea.
>
> Could you tell me how to bind a script to a layered keystroke though? I
> can't seem to do it using the create script dialogue. It recognises Insert +
> space, but not the layered m.
>
> I haven't been able to find anything about layered keystrokes in the help
> manual (yet), or by Googling.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Léonie.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: 15 November 2012 21:16
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> insert+space is layered, so you'll have to express it that way, not just
> insert+as insert+space. I think some others will respond though,
> so I'll check back to make sure you're good on this, if it doesn't work for
> you. be careful of stuff like jawsKey+m, as that can map to priorCharacter
> in laptop layout.
>
>
>
> Website: www.SinaBahram.com
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:42 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> Thanks Sina and Travis. I've been experimenting with that function, but I'm
> having some trouble getting it to work.
>
> I'm currently using it to create a shortcut to move to the <body> element,
> since I know that should be in Jaws' list of tags. I've added a script to
> the firefox.jss file, and from within it I've called that function.
>
> Script MoveToMain ()
> MoveToTag (s_top, "body")
> EndScript
>
> It's currently bound to Jaws key + m as a keystroke. I've compiled the
> script, checked the keyboard manager to confirm the keystroke is tied to the
> script, and tested it in Firefox.
>
> Guessing I'm missing something obvious. Any suggestions?
>
>
> On a related note, Sina suggested binding it to Jaws key + space, m. I don't
> seem to be able to replicate that keystroke in the key assignment field of
> the create script dialogue though. It recognises the Jaws key + space, but
> not the additional keystroke.
>
> Léonie.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
> Sent: 15 November 2012 00:06
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> Hi,
> JAWS has a MoveToTag() function.
> You could try something like
> MoveToTag (s_top, "main")
>
> I am not sure if JAWS loads any tag it finds into its tag list, or only
> officially recognized HTML tags, but you could try and find what happens...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:59 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> Good evening,
>
>
> I'd like to create a proof of concept script for Jaws. It's to demonstrate
> how Jaws might support a new HTML5 element that's been proposed.
>
>
>
> I think there are two possible options. Either to modify the script that
> handles navigation between landmarks on web pages with the semi colon quick
> nav key, or to write a new script that introduces a new quick nav key based
> on the proposed element.
>
>
>
> A potential catch is that this new element doesn't exist yet, so there is no
> browser support for it. Jaws would need to take it from the HTML because no
> information will be available via the browser's accessibility API.
>
>
>
> If this is something that's likely to be browser specific, Firefox is my
> preferred browser for developing this proof of concept functionality.
>
>
>
> I'm an occasional Jaws scripter, but it's been a long time since I used it
> in anger. I'd appreciate any advice on the best approach to take,
> scripts/functions I would need to modify, and any pitfalls I should be aware
> of.
>
>
>
> I've searched the list archives (and will keep trying), but if there is
> existing information around this anywhere, links and/or reading material
> happily received as well. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Léonie.
>
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