[jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between landmarks
- From: Léonie Watson <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:21:57 -0000
Thanks Don. I've been searching for a way to find out what the existing
layered keystrokes were. That helped, and I've arrived at JAWSKey+Space&j.
Léonie.
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Marang
Sent: 17 November 2012 20:26
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
landmarks
Sirry, yhe layered keys, JAWS + Space & c, is also taken in JAWS 14! It
presents the clipboard in a virtual window. Press JAWS + Space & question
mark (?) for a list of keys that are taken.
*Don Marang*
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
<http://www.vinuxproject.org/>
On 11/17/2012 3:15 PM, Léonie Watson wrote:
> Thanks Travis and Sina.
>
> You're right Sina, JAWSKey+Space&m is already assigned to something. I
> misheard your warning, and thought you meant JAWSKey+m.
>
>
> Thanks for the tip about JAWSKey+Space&n being available Travis. I've
> opted for JAWSKey+Space&c though, because c is a better mnemonic for
content.
>
> Thanks both for all your help with this though. Much appreciated.
>
>
> Léonie.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: 17 November 2012 18:59
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating
> between landmarks
>
> *smile*, remember how I told you m was a bad idea? JawsKey+space&M is
> already taken, I'm afraid. It highlights from the placemarker to
> current virtual cursor position.
>
> Just pick something else, and you'll be fine.
>
> Try the layered keystroke out before you assign it. alternatively,
> turn on keyboard help, jawskey+1 and try it out there so that you can
> see the thing it maps to. If it's undefined, use that.
>
>
> Website: www.SinaBahram.com
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:08 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating
> between landmarks
>
> Thanks Sina. I've edited the firefox.jkm file in a text editor to add
> the
> following:
>
> JawsKey+Space&m=MoveToMain
>
> Where MoveToMain is the name of my script. I've saved the .jkm file
> and recompiled my firefox.jss file (just for completeness). The
> firefox.jss file includes the following:
>
> Script MoveToMain ()
> MoveToTagWithAttribute (s_top, "main", "role", true) SayMessage
> (OT_MESSAGE, "Start of main content area", "Main content area")
> EndScript
>
> When I try this, Jaws says "Set a temporary place marker with Control
> + Windows + k, then you can select between that place and your current
> location".
>
> I'm wondering if the layered keystroke should be attached to a
> function, rather than a script? That seems a bit inspecific though.
> Otherwise, I'm completely mystified now. Any ideas?
>
> Léonie.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: 17 November 2012 17:45
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating
> between landmarks
>
> Sure, so, the general JKM format is simply the first standard
> keystroke combination for the layer, followed by the second or third
> with ampersand characters delimiting them per layer.
>
> Here's a single layer in the form of the flexible web dialog:
>
> JAWSKey+Space&X=DoFlexibleWebDialog
>
> If you want multiple layers, for example, let's say you want to make
> yourself a little test environment or sandbox layer to just put all
> your keystrokes in without polluting the rest of the namespace, then
> you can do multiple layers like the below OCR example:
>
> JAWSKey+Space&O&W=RecognizeRealWindow
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> Website: www.SinaBahram.com
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:34 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating
> between landmarks
>
> Thanks Sina. Agree avoiding Jaws key m is a good idea.
>
> Could you tell me how to bind a script to a layered keystroke though?
> I can't seem to do it using the create script dialogue. It recognises
> Insert + space, but not the layered m.
>
> I haven't been able to find anything about layered keystrokes in the
> help manual (yet), or by Googling.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Léonie.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: 15 November 2012 21:16
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating
> between landmarks
>
> insert+space is layered, so you'll have to express it that way, not
> insert+just as insert+space. I think some others will respond though,
> so I'll check back to make sure you're good on this, if it doesn't
> work for you. be careful of stuff like jawsKey+m, as that can map to
> priorCharacter in laptop layout.
>
>
>
> Website: www.SinaBahram.com
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:42 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating
> between landmarks
>
> Thanks Sina and Travis. I've been experimenting with that function,
> but I'm having some trouble getting it to work.
>
> I'm currently using it to create a shortcut to move to the <body>
> element, since I know that should be in Jaws' list of tags. I've added
> a script to the firefox.jss file, and from within it I've called that
function.
>
> Script MoveToMain ()
> MoveToTag (s_top, "body")
> EndScript
>
> It's currently bound to Jaws key + m as a keystroke. I've compiled the
> script, checked the keyboard manager to confirm the keystroke is tied
> to the script, and tested it in Firefox.
>
> Guessing I'm missing something obvious. Any suggestions?
>
>
> On a related note, Sina suggested binding it to Jaws key + space, m. I
> don't seem to be able to replicate that keystroke in the key
> assignment field of the create script dialogue though. It recognises
> the Jaws key + space, but not the additional keystroke.
>
> Léonie.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
> Sent: 15 November 2012 00:06
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Modifying Jaws script for navigating
> between landmarks
>
> Hi,
> JAWS has a MoveToTag() function.
> You could try something like
> MoveToTag (s_top, "main")
>
> I am not sure if JAWS loads any tag it finds into its tag list, or
> only officially recognized HTML tags, but you could try and find what
happens...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:59 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Modifying Jaws script for navigating between
> landmarks
>
> Good evening,
>
>
> I'd like to create a proof of concept script for Jaws. It's to
> demonstrate how Jaws might support a new HTML5 element that's been
proposed.
>
>
>
> I think there are two possible options. Either to modify the script
> that handles navigation between landmarks on web pages with the semi
> colon quick nav key, or to write a new script that introduces a new
> quick nav key based on the proposed element.
>
>
>
> A potential catch is that this new element doesn't exist yet, so there
> is no browser support for it. Jaws would need to take it from the HTML
> because no information will be available via the browser's accessibility
API.
>
>
>
> If this is something that's likely to be browser specific, Firefox is
> my preferred browser for developing this proof of concept functionality.
>
>
>
> I'm an occasional Jaws scripter, but it's been a long time since I
> used it in anger. I'd appreciate any advice on the best approach to
> take, scripts/functions I would need to modify, and any pitfalls I
> should be aware of.
>
>
>
> I've searched the list archives (and will keep trying), but if there
> is existing information around this anywhere, links and/or reading
> material happily received as well. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Léonie.
>
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