[jawsscripts] Re: Screen Res with Jaws

  • From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:27:19 -0400

I know but what do you do if there multiple copies of the same graphic and 
you want the second one out of the total three that are on screen?
and BTW, NewTextEvent fires too.  forgot that one.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:02 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Screen Res with Jaws


> Try using findstring or findGraphic instead, Gian. These are not
> nearly as resolution dependent, & work very well. If u ever wish to
> make scripts available to others, this is a definite must inasmuch as
> is humanly possible.
>
> On 10/22/12, GianniP46 <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I don't think I have a choice because the whole app is the same window 
>> class
>> and id.  the only events that fire are FocusChangedEvent,
>> ScreenStablizedEvent, KeyPressedEvent, and SayHighlightedText.  I make 
>> great
>> use of hsc to click things.  I use some frames, and move too to get at 
>> info
>> on the screen.
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Jackie McBride
>>   To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>   Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 6:59 PM
>>   Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Screen Res with Jaws
>>
>>   & that's precisely the problem w/writing scripts that have a lot of
>>   moveTo(x, y) statements, is their resolution dependence. It's why I
>>   avoid it like plague, unless I absolutely, positively, unequivocally
>>   have no other choice. Jaws also definitively seems to behave better
>>   w/some video cards than others. That, however, has nothing to do
>>   w/what he asked, which was what resolution is jaws more stable with. &
>>   the answer I gave is that it more depends on the hardware than it does
>>   on Jaws. I surely never said that resolution doesn't matter.
>>
>>   The reason your internet worked when the video card died in your
>>   machine is simply because Jaws was drawing its information from the
>>   underlying web dom rather than from the osm. NVDA & System Access do
>>   likewise, which is why they don't even have video intercept drivers.
>>   The problem w/all that is when u get apps that don't use the
>>   underlying objects, but rather screen attributes such as colors, etc.,
>>   (band in a box being a good example), those screenreaders tend to fall
>>   over in a screaming heap.
>>
>>   On 10/21/12, Trouble <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>   > That really don't answer the question. More like something would hear
>> from
>>   > FS.
>>   > It does matter, because scripts written in a
>>   > differ rez will react funny if used in a rez to
>>   > far out of there range. Jaws also does act
>>   > differently with some cards it does better with
>>   > low rez and others better. The faster you can
>>   > render that graphic the faster jaws can deal with it.
>>   > i have first hand usage of this when my video
>>   > card died. Everything except the Internet that
>>   > used the video card wouldn't work. However, jaws
>>   > still worked with no video card at all. i seen
>>   > more in programs then when the card worked. Now I
>>   > have a card that is 10 times faster and higher
>>   > quality and jaws sees some but not all of what it did.
>>   >
>>   > At 03:29 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
>>   >>I think you're just best off keeping your resolution at the level 
>> your
>>   >>particular video card & monitor is designed for.
>>   >>
>>   >>On 10/21/12, GianniP46 <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>   >> > does a higher or lower screen resolution matter to Jaws?  is one
>> better
>>   >> > or
>>   >> > more stable over the other?
>>   >> >   ----- Original Message -----
>>   >> >   From: Jackie McBride
>>   >> >   To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>   >> >   Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:29 PM
>>   >> >   Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Screen Res with Jaws
>>   >> >
>>   >> >   Gian, sometimes, when using the Jaws cursor, graphics change
>>   >> >   characteristics i.e., sometimes graphics change when the mouse 
>> is
>>   >> >   hovered over them, & Jaws tries hard to implement/mimick that
>>   >> >   functionality. U might try using the invisible cursor on your
>>   >> > graphics
>>   >> >   to see if that still occurs.
>>   >> >
>>   >> >   On 10/20/12, GianniP46 <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>   >> >   > Hi folks,
>>   >> >   > ok, I am back with A jaws and ScratchLIVE question.  The 
>> latest
>>   >> > version
>>   >> > of
>>   >> >   > scratchLIVE requires a minimum screen resolution of 1280 
>> by800.
>> So
>>   >> > I
>>   >> > just
>>   >> >   > upped my res from 1024 by 768.  Does Jaws
>>   >> really care about which screen
>>   >> > res
>>   >> >   > you use at this point?  I am using Jaws 13 with win xp pro 
>> sp3.
>>   >> >   > I did have to update my scripts though because I use a lot of
>> move
>>   >> > to
>>   >> >   > functionality so I had to update screen coordinates of buttons
>> and
>>   >> > graphics
>>   >> >   > and stuff.  My hotspots seam to be fine at this point.
>>   >> >   > The only issue that I see is that graphics seam to disappear
>>   >> > sometimes
>>   >> > for a
>>   >> >   > sec or two, but then come back as far as Jaws is concerned.  I
>>   >> > noticed
>>   >> > this
>>   >> >   > before at the lower resolution, but its more noticeable at the
>>   >> > higher
>>   >> >   > resolution.  Can anyone shed some light or give me some tips 
>> on
>>   >> > this?
>>   >> >   > I must say though, I like the higher res because it seams like
>> Jaws
>>   >> > can
>>   >> > see
>>   >> >   > more info then before on a given line.  This is useful with
>> track
>>   >> >   > information as I am scrolling through lists of songs.
>>   >> >   > Thanks all in advance!
>>   >> >   >
>>   >> >   > Gian Carlo Pedulla
>>   >> >   > GianniP46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>   >> >   >
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>>   >> >   might even be the culprit
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