[jawsscripts] Re: Screen Res with Jaws
- From: Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:30:00 -0700
Gian, when u look at the parameters of the FindGraphic function,
you'll notice that 1 of them is for the direction where the find
should start, e.g., s_top, s_bottom. Use s_bottom instead of s_top. U
can also restrict the find to a particular window, if that's helpful.
On 10/23/12, GianniP46 <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I know but what do you do if there multiple copies of the same graphic and
> you want the second one out of the total three that are on screen?
> and BTW, NewTextEvent fires too. forgot that one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:02 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Screen Res with Jaws
>
>
>> Try using findstring or findGraphic instead, Gian. These are not
>> nearly as resolution dependent, & work very well. If u ever wish to
>> make scripts available to others, this is a definite must inasmuch as
>> is humanly possible.
>>
>> On 10/22/12, GianniP46 <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I don't think I have a choice because the whole app is the same window
>>> class
>>> and id. the only events that fire are FocusChangedEvent,
>>> ScreenStablizedEvent, KeyPressedEvent, and SayHighlightedText. I make
>>> great
>>> use of hsc to click things. I use some frames, and move too to get at
>>> info
>>> on the screen.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jackie McBride
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 6:59 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Screen Res with Jaws
>>>
>>> & that's precisely the problem w/writing scripts that have a lot of
>>> moveTo(x, y) statements, is their resolution dependence. It's why I
>>> avoid it like plague, unless I absolutely, positively, unequivocally
>>> have no other choice. Jaws also definitively seems to behave better
>>> w/some video cards than others. That, however, has nothing to do
>>> w/what he asked, which was what resolution is jaws more stable with. &
>>> the answer I gave is that it more depends on the hardware than it does
>>> on Jaws. I surely never said that resolution doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> The reason your internet worked when the video card died in your
>>> machine is simply because Jaws was drawing its information from the
>>> underlying web dom rather than from the osm. NVDA & System Access do
>>> likewise, which is why they don't even have video intercept drivers.
>>> The problem w/all that is when u get apps that don't use the
>>> underlying objects, but rather screen attributes such as colors, etc.,
>>> (band in a box being a good example), those screenreaders tend to fall
>>> over in a screaming heap.
>>>
>>> On 10/21/12, Trouble <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > That really don't answer the question. More like something would
>>> hear
>>> from
>>> > FS.
>>> > It does matter, because scripts written in a
>>> > differ rez will react funny if used in a rez to
>>> > far out of there range. Jaws also does act
>>> > differently with some cards it does better with
>>> > low rez and others better. The faster you can
>>> > render that graphic the faster jaws can deal with it.
>>> > i have first hand usage of this when my video
>>> > card died. Everything except the Internet that
>>> > used the video card wouldn't work. However, jaws
>>> > still worked with no video card at all. i seen
>>> > more in programs then when the card worked. Now I
>>> > have a card that is 10 times faster and higher
>>> > quality and jaws sees some but not all of what it did.
>>> >
>>> > At 03:29 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote:
>>> >>I think you're just best off keeping your resolution at the level
>>> your
>>> >>particular video card & monitor is designed for.
>>> >>
>>> >>On 10/21/12, GianniP46 <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> > does a higher or lower screen resolution matter to Jaws? is one
>>> better
>>> >> > or
>>> >> > more stable over the other?
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: Jackie McBride
>>> >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:29 PM
>>> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Screen Res with Jaws
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Gian, sometimes, when using the Jaws cursor, graphics change
>>> >> > characteristics i.e., sometimes graphics change when the mouse
>>> is
>>> >> > hovered over them, & Jaws tries hard to implement/mimick that
>>> >> > functionality. U might try using the invisible cursor on your
>>> >> > graphics
>>> >> > to see if that still occurs.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 10/20/12, GianniP46 <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> > > Hi folks,
>>> >> > > ok, I am back with A jaws and ScratchLIVE question. The
>>> latest
>>> >> > version
>>> >> > of
>>> >> > > scratchLIVE requires a minimum screen resolution of 1280
>>> by800.
>>> So
>>> >> > I
>>> >> > just
>>> >> > > upped my res from 1024 by 768. Does Jaws
>>> >> really care about which screen
>>> >> > res
>>> >> > > you use at this point? I am using Jaws 13 with win xp pro
>>> sp3.
>>> >> > > I did have to update my scripts though because I use a lot of
>>> move
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > > functionality so I had to update screen coordinates of
>>> buttons
>>> and
>>> >> > graphics
>>> >> > > and stuff. My hotspots seam to be fine at this point.
>>> >> > > The only issue that I see is that graphics seam to disappear
>>> >> > sometimes
>>> >> > for a
>>> >> > > sec or two, but then come back as far as Jaws is concerned.
>>> I
>>> >> > noticed
>>> >> > this
>>> >> > > before at the lower resolution, but its more noticeable at
>>> the
>>> >> > higher
>>> >> > > resolution. Can anyone shed some light or give me some tips
>>> on
>>> >> > this?
>>> >> > > I must say though, I like the higher res because it seams
>>> like
>>> Jaws
>>> >> > can
>>> >> > see
>>> >> > > more info then before on a given line. This is useful with
>>> track
>>> >> > > information as I am scrolling through lists of songs.
>>> >> > > Thanks all in advance!
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Gian Carlo Pedulla
>>> >> > > GianniP46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > LETS! GO! METS!
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>>> >> > might even be the culprit
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>> might even be the culprit
>> Jackie McBride
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