I didn't see the bird so I have no size sense. If you feel it was lg then
my view is smaller and off. But as far as the Lesser, seems like the vent
is much more prominent in the photos. Also bill is all black on Lesser.
Zooming in does it show some pink at the base? But again if it was
larger... Anyway good to everyone for raising the bar for leas and the
birds. Y'all are impressive! Been fun to read about all the interest and
growth. Well done.
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 9:18 PM Phillip Kite <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
If memory serves, we get the Smithson subspecies, which is smaller than
the other Herring subspecies. I thought the bill in the first picture fit
herring, but haven’t had time to pull references and scratch my head to
augment my often faulty memory. I’m with Rob in that it appeared larger
despite the absence of any size comparison. Don’t ask me why, just an
impression.
Sent slowly from Phillip Kite's iPhone
On Nov 10, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Joe Cochran <JCochran2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks Rob – I was considering a Lesser Black-backed Gull since it seemed
larger than the Ring-billed Gulls present but smaller than a Herring Gull
would be. I’m interested to see what others think.
*From:* leasbirds-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <leasbirds-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *On
Behalf Of *Robert C. Lee
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2021 7:55 PM
*To:* leasbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [leasbirds] Re: Gull at Leroy Elmore
Plumage is fresh-no wear so 1st winter plumage?. Note the light tips of
primaries, secondaries, coverts, and tail. Impression without reference is
a larger rather than medium to small species. The bill seems thicker than
Ring-billed. All black bill is important imo. Too light for 1st winter
Herring? I don’t see any obvious combination of field marks that would
eliminate Herring. Black backs? Possible.
On Nov 10, 2021, at 6:35 PM, Joe Cochran <JCochran2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I had this gull at Leroy Elmore and I’m having trouble with an ID – any
Ideas?
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