John Shutt wrote: > Craig, > > You've been on that same theme for over a decade. Ten years ago you > were saying that we needed intelligent receivers that could have their > codecs updated via firmware, that the receiver should be able to add > graphics and station bugs, and the receivers should be able to cache > micro-targeted ads for insertion at the STB. > > However, broadcasting is a mass medium, and you cannot just go around > killing people's receivers just because it no longer supported the > most current "update." The receivers need to be as simple as possible, > and the broadcast stream has to at least remain backwards compatible > with the very first Zenith Blue Rack. > > Whatever "intelligent receiver" that would have been designed in 1999 > would be woefully obsolete today, and broadcasters can't afford to > alienate viewers by making their old receivers go dark simply because > those old receivers no longer have the graphics horsepower or cache > memory required to run the latest version of the "ATSC OS." You took the words right out of my mouth. This is indeed an long-running complaint. I do quite a lot of Internet TV watching (although it's still a small fraction of overall TV watching), and I can very safely say that the problems and glitches I encounter over the Internet *far* outnumber those I encounter OTA. To be fair, my Internet TV fare is mostly (not entirely) foreign news, so it's not the easiest path to the receiver. The problems I encounter are ever changing, from the obvious codec update that needs to be accommodated, which is rather trivial but still a big nuisance, to freezing streams which often require me to exit and restart the program stream, to a new and recurring problem, wherein the image freezes but the audio continues. And then after some future break, the frozen video gets back in synch, but this may be many minutes later. And the phenomenon repeats itself many times in the duration of the newscast. Sometimes, also in web programs from the major US networks, the program freezes after a commercial break, but I can coax it on if I manually shove the cursor forward a small amount. This does not always work. Some streams, over time, have increased in bandwidth to the point that my ADSL connection has become marginal. Frequent stops, waiting to fill up the buffer to some acceptable level. The more time passes, the more each individual web streamer seems to be requiring installation of their own player, or at very least, their own plug-ins to some more standard player. These are problems that occur because the web streaming standards keep changing. Sure, some earlier imperfections do get addressed over time, however the "steady state condition" is one of constant flux and constant problems. Most people who watch TV will not tolerate this sort of quality. Even if the word "Internet" is in there somewhere. Having said all of that, what Craig wants is still COMPLETELY doable within the context of existing ATSC standards. There is no problem adding in a separate, targetted ad option, for example. Given enough excess bandwidth over the 19.39 Mb/s channel, new receivers can certainly be designed to insert custom ads in place of the baseline ads, while old receivers continue on with the baseline ads. Lots of innovative features can be added, without breaking the legacy receivers. The constant refrain that ATSC was designed for some outdated way of broadcasting is mostly an indication of lack of imagination, IMO. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.