Bert: I take exception to some of your statements: "I think it's unnecessary to whine about formats like 854 X 480, for example. Even if it would be nice to have all receivers decode that properly, what difference does that make? Would it add something strkingly different compared with 704 X 480? It would give us nice square pixels for the 16:9 aspect ratio, but honestly, WHO CARES anymore? Who cared even 10 years ago?" -Bert To be honest, I see lots of problems with non-square pixel formats. Inevitably, the aspect ratio is wrong on many displays. Sending out square pixels is a lot more reliable than non-square. It would also add over 10% resolution, but perhaps that would not be striking. "ATSC does work with indoor antennas." -Bert I live in about as perfect of an environment as one can hope for ATSC: line of sight to the transmitting antennas, open valley, few reflections. It doesn't work on the lower floor at my house. I had to install an outdoor antenna. "Broadcasters are still airing their prime content on FOTA TV." -Bert Much programming that was considered fit for broadcast is now going to cable-only, especially sports. I will only catch the first half of the NASCAR season. I believe that media outlets do not think they are losing much audience when only on cable or DBS. I think 10-14% is a significant loss, but most on here do not. So it will only get worse. Dan