>Backhaul. >Read it again: I'm sorry but which part of this quote do you not understand? - "GE American Communications (GE Americom) announced today that California-based Geocast Network Systems, Inc. (Geocast) will be distributing its new rich-media program service that delivers high-quality audio-visual and interactive content to the PC desktop via the GE-4 satellite." >You clearly do not know what happened. Geocast was failing before they ever deployed a receiver. As I said, the infrastructure was too fragile to support the business. No doubt there may have been Blah blah. >Do you remember when the PC industry had to deal with the early Multimedia PC disaster? I'm talking about the early '90s when nearly 25% of Multimedia PC upgrades were being returned because the out-of-the-box experience was such a disaster. These upgrades Early 90s can only be circa first releases of Windows and mm hardware, so -- Yes, the soundblaster did in fact suck in its first release (we Amiga people used to ridicule PC users at every opportunity). However, Creative Labs made some changes to their card and it caught on. Microsoft did some upgrades to the OS, and windows became more game-friendly. Funny thing though - they controlled the pipe as well as user experience. So how that relates to GeoCast attempting to make good use of a pipe over which they have no control is, well, irrelevant. >GeoCast did the studies and found that the difficulty in establishing reliable reception invalidated the entire business model . Didn't they also change business models once or twice in mid-stride? That is a killer too. Oh yeah, plus ofcourse the CONTENT wasn't there. >Apples and oranges. Geocast was not representing its business model as competition for broadband. Perhaps this is where you are getting confused. These service are complementary, not mutually exclusive. Nope. Everyone in the datacast industry will agree one one thing - high speed killed it. If you want to fight that concept then you are a voice in the wilderness - don't know how else to put it to you. The aren't complimentary -- Joe user can't tell the difference between news on a web page delivered over the air and the same news from the web ('same news articles'). But, on the other hand, he usually isn't *stupid* enough to buy a new piece of hardware to duplicate what he already gets with his cable/dsl modem. >What I am proposing is an infrastructure that delivers MANY bit rate intensive applications to the masses. Movies, and everything else you listed are simply applications. Propose all you want, but users do not buy technology, they buy applications. All the technology you're going on about is completely deliverable -- so put your money where your mouth is and instead of waving your hands and saying 'but we can deliver all this content via blah and blah and blah', tell me, as Joe User, what applications I can buy from your service, and what the price entry point for a receiver device is. >Geocast was not "playing games." iBlast did launch a game application in the LA market. Needless to say if failed. Um, your quote listed Electronic Arts. Maybe you need to check what they make. >And by the way, many school districts are using broadcast technologies to do this today. They are not in the large percentage. Most schools use the benefit of DVD roms to distribute content. Heck, they aren't producing content and courseware at such a rate that they need to datacast it. >have a similar level of control. But it takes infrastructure. You need to think about the distribution of K-12 courseware and real time updates from teachers to local caches, both in the schools and in the homes of students. I sure would have loved to be able to pull up the courses my kids were taking, to see what the real homework assignments were, or to receive an e-mail from a teacher when my kids screwed up. You should run that by these people. I'm sure you would have the door slammed in your face faster than you can get half of that techno-babble across to them. >Yes, I said an e-mail. But not in the traditional sense. If every receiver has a distinct IP address, and you give that address to someone, they can send you a message via a one-way data broadcast Yeah that's targeting. An IP address isn't used, rather a unique receiver ID is. IP addresses can be changed and duplicated, you know. >system. So imagine that a teacher has the address for every student in the class, be it a traditional 2-way e-mail address or a 1-way message delivery system. The teacher can blast messages to every student, or send personal messages to individual students. This can all be done by subscribing a STB to a data broadcast service that is updated once a day during off-peak hours. Sorry, no demand. We have a system that does that. It was demo'd at NAB in 1998/1999/2000. 'Wow that's cool' - but other than that no interest. Changing distribution systems is a logistical nightmare - on and most important - it MAY mean that some employees would be out of a job. And that doesn't go down well. 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