[slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
- From: "Gordan Radic" <gordan.radic@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:11:20 +0100
Pozdrav, Igore.
Sad stvarno ne bih znao reci napamet, jer u zadnje vrijeme radim sa
skenerima kojima citac ide od dugmadi prema kabelima, a kod tebe je obrnut
slucaj.
Pretpostavljam da bi trebao knjigu namjestiti uz gornji desni kut skenera, i
to na nacin ako je otvorena na pocetku da je tanja polovica postavljena
prema dugmadi, tj. da opticki citac prvo predje preko deblje polovice, prema
tanjoj.
U Fine Readerovim optionsima, pod stavkama za skener treba obavezno
ukljuciti 'Split dual pages', a bilo bi dobro da i u scanner settings, koji
se nalazi na istom tabu Paper size prebacis na Custom, a upises tocnu,
odnosno radi sigurnosti za centimetar povecanu dimenziju knjige kad je
otvorena. Time ces smanjiti vrijeme skeniranja, jer ce glava imati nesto
manji put prilikom citanja i skratiti ukupno vrijeme.
Sljedeci savjet, koji isto moze skratiti vrijeme samog skeniranja je da prvo
odskeniras sve stranice, a tek ih onda das programu na prepoznavanje.
Znaci, ne ides na Scan and Read multiple pages, nego samo na Scan multiple
pages, kratica na tastaturi je CTRL + Shift + K, barem u Fine Readeru 7.
Tek kad sve sto ti treba odskeniras, onda pronadjes u Process menju opciju
Read All Pages (CTRL + Shift + R) i naredis programu da to sve zajedno
procita, a ti odes na pice s frendovima:).
Dobro, sad sam malo oduzio i na ono sto me nisi pitao, no nema veze. Samo cu
jos jednom ponoviti da je ono oko pravca knjige moja pretpostavka, te da bi
bilo najbolje to istestirati prakticno, pa se uz videcu pomoc ili
orijentaciju prema brojevima stranica uvjeriti slaze li Fine Reader u batch
stranice pravilno ili u cik-cak.
Regards
G
ICQ #274696026
----- Original Message -----
From: "igor" <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
> GORDANE DOBIO SAM UPUTE ZA FINE READER SAMO SAM MISLIO DA MI KAŽETE
> PRAVILNO
> POSTAVLJANJE KNJIGA NA SKENER
> OSTALO JE VJEROVATNO KAO I KOD DRUGIH STVARI RAD I SAMO RAD PA ĆE SVE LEĆI
> NA SVOJE
>
> IGOR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gordan Radic" <gordan.radic@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:17 PM
> Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
>
>
>> Pozdrav svima na ovoj temi i sire, odgovaram Igoru, no nije mi se dalo
>> traziti njegov mail pa evo saljem reply preko zadnjeg koji je stigao.
>> Skeniranje knjiga u Fine Readeru, kad se malo uhodas, nije uopce tesko.
>> No,
>> za uhodavanje ipak treba napisati odredjeni tekst s uputama, a za to sad
>> nazalost nemam vremena. Mislim da je listom kruzio neki prirucnik za
>> koristenje Fine Readera, pa ako ovo procita mozebitni vlasnik, apelirao
>> bih
>> na njega da ti pripomogne oko toga.
>> No, ono sto je bitnije, a to je treci korak, nakon samog skeniranja i
>> prepoznavanja teksta je ispravljanje skeniranog teksta. Programi za
>> opticko
>> prepoznavanje cesto rade greske izmedju malog slova l i velikog slova I,
>> w
>> (dvostruko v) ce ako se u optionsima ne postavi dual language ce
>> prepoznati
>> kao dva obicna slova v, y ce isto tako pretvoriti u malo slovo v, kod
>> loseg
>> skena, ako knjiga nije dobro prislonjena na staklo ce malo slovo k
>> prepoznati kao slova l i c i jos puno, puno finesa.
>> Oko ispravljanja ti stvarno zelim srecu i nadam se da imas celicne zivce
>> i
>> strpljenje, jer nije nimalo lak posao.
>> Regards
>> G
>>
>> ICQ #274696026
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Zlatko Sobočan" <sobocan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "SliKom (Lista)" <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:26 PM
>> Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
>>
>>
>>> Pozdrav svima,
>>>
>>> Ovo je tocno uz nekoliko napomena:
>>>
>>> * Od svih ovdje nabrojenih i nenabrojenih OCR softvera, jedino
>>> FineReader
>>> za
>>> nase jezike ima podrsku za kodni raspored i hrvatski, kao i srpski
>>> Spellchecker (provjeru pravopisa i pravilno napisane rijeci).
>>>
>>> * Cicero ima kodnu podrsku za nas kodni raspored, ali mu je engine
>>> Recognita
>>> 5 i nema spellchecker za nase jezike. Recognita 5 je bila aktuelna
>>> 2000./2001. godine.
>>>
>>> * OmniPage Pro i Text Bridge odlicno prepoznaju tekst, ali na njega
>>> primjenjuju USA spellchecker. Konacni rezultat skeniranja je na razini
>>> FineReadera 4 ili Recognite 4.
>>>
>>> * Openbook ima neku gresku u kodnom rasporedu CE-1250 i nema hrvatski
>>> spellchecker, pa je konacni rezultat skeniranja dosta mrsav.
>>>
>>> * Kurzweil je odlican OCR program uz napomenu da njegova najnovija
>>> verzija
>>> ima engine od FineReadera 6 i nema nas spellchecker. Konacni rezultat je
>>> ispod rezultata skeniranja FineReadera 6. Najnovija verzija FineReadera
>>> je
>>> 8.0.
>>>
>>> Ima jos napomena, ali da ne zamaram.
>>> FineReader je trenutno najbolji OCR program za nase jezike, pristupacan
>>> je
>>> svim citacima ekrana, jednostavan je za koristenje i po cijeni je
>>> prihvatljiv.
>>>
>>> Lijep pozdrav,
>>>
>>> Zlatko
>>>
>>> ----- Originalna poruka -----
>>> Šalje: "Gradimir Kragic" <bastono@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Poslano: 21. siječanj 2007 5:03
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Zdravo Igore, zdravo svima,
>>>>
>>>> Da ja malo zakomplikujem stvar i tebi i drugim. Ovo sto ti je
>>>> Gordan
>>>> odgovorio je uredu a odnosi se kada skeniras sliku. Kod skeniranja
>>>> teksta
>>>> i
>>>> njegovog prepoznavanja stvar je nesto drugacija. Vjerovatno da ce ti
>>>> Gordan
>>>> jos pisati a ja sam prihvatio poziv na Skype za vise detalja u vezi
>>>> Fine
>>>> Readera. Komplikacija sa moje strane je sledeca. Mi uglavnom govorimo o
>>>> programu Fine Reader za skeniranje knjiga odnosno tekstova. Taj program
>>>> kao
>>>> i drugi programi su se rasirili zahvaljuci sledecim cinjenicama:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Da je dobar program i pristupacan korisnicima JAWS-a.
>>>> 2. Da je moguce njegovo instaliranje zahvaljuci krekovanju, mada mu je
>>>> cijena manja od 100 Eura.
>>>>
>>>> Postoji mnogo drugih programa koji su se koristili ili se koriste.
>>>> Evo
>>>> kako izgleda lista tih drugih programa koji su se koristili ili se
>>>> koriste.
>>>> Ovo tek da se zna da postoje i druga rjesenja. Slijedi lista od 19
>>>> programa. Uskoro o ovim programima vise detalja na web portalu slikom.
>>>>
>>>> Nazalost tekst je na Engleskom jeziku.
>>>> 1. CICERO TEXT READER
>>>> Cicero Text Reader is a reading machine program designed for use
>>>> by
>>>> individuals who are blind or have low vision. This reading machine
>>>> program
>>>> uses optical character recognition (OCR) to turn a personal or laptop
>>>> computer connected to a scanner into ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. COMPLETE READING SYSTEM
>>>> The Complete Reading System is a voice output optical character
>>>> recognition program designed for use by individuals who are blind or
>>>> have
>>>> low vision. This OCR program is easy to use, since most of its
>>>> functions
>>>> can be activated with a press of a sing...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. EXTREME READER (MODEL ER-1)
>>>> Extreme Reader, model ER-1, is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR)
>>>> device designed for use by individuals who are blind or who have low
>>>> vision. This device is a stand-alone OCR system designed to convert
>>>> printed
>>>> text and text stored on compact dis...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. EXTREME READER (MODEL XR-10)
>>>> Extreme Reader, model XR-10, is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR) device designed for use by individuals with blindness or low
>>>> vision
>>>> or other print disabilities. This stand-alone OCR system converts
>>>> printed
>>>> text and text stored on compact disks...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. EZ VIP READING SYSTEM
>>>> The ezVIP Reading System is an optical character recognition
>>>> program
>>>> combined with a software speech synthesizer designed to convert a
>>>> personal
>>>> computer with a scanner into a reading machine for individuals who are
>>>> blind or who have low vision. This ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5. KURZWEIL 1000
>>>> Kurzweil 1000 is an optical character recognition (OCR) program
>>>> with
>>>> voice output designed for individuals who are blind or have low vision.
>>>> This software package runs on a personal computer connected to a
>>>> flatbed
>>>> scanner. It scans books, magazine ar...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6. KURZWEIL 3000 FOR MACINTOSH
>>>> Kurzweil 3000 for Macintosh is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR)
>>>> program with voice output designed for use by individuals with learning
>>>> disabilities. This software scans documents and reads scanned or
>>>> electronic
>>>> text aloud using synthetic speec...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 7. KURZWEIL 3000 FOR WINDOWS
>>>> Kurzweil 3000 for Windows is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR)
>>>> and test program with voice output designed for use by individuals with
>>>> dyslexia and other learning disabilities. This OCR software scans
>>>> documents
>>>> and reads scanned or electronic te...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8. LIBRETTE TURNKEY SYSTEM & LIBRA TURNKEY SYSTEM
>>>> The Librette Turnkey System and Libra Turnkey System are personal
>>>> computer systems pre-loaded with optical character recognition (OCR),
>>>> screen magnification, web browser, and voice output software, designed
>>>> for
>>>> use by individuals who are blind or hav...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 9. OBR OPTICAL BRAILLE RECOGNITION
>>>> OBR is an optical Braille recognition program designed for use by
>>>> individuals who are blind or who have low vision. This program reads
>>>> Braille characters and converts Braille hard copy into text or
>>>> formatted
>>>> Braille files. A Braille document is place...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10. OMNIPAGE PRO 14
>>>> OmniPage Pro 14 is a voice output optical character recognition
>>>> program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have low
>>>> vision.
>>>> The program converts scanned paper documents into text files in a
>>>> variety
>>>> of electronic formats, including Word,...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 11. OPENBOOK
>>>> OpenBook is an optical character recognition (OCR) program
>>>> designed
>>>> for use by individuals who are blind or have low vision. This scanning
>>>> and
>>>> reading software enables users to convert print documents or
>>>> graphic-based
>>>> text into an electronic text for...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 12. READING EDGE
>>>> The Reading Edge is a voice output reading machine designed for
>>>> use
>>>> by individuals who are blind or have low vision. This stand-alone
>>>> reading
>>>> machine integrates a bookedge scanner scanning at 300 dots per inch
>>>> (dpi),
>>>> Xerox Imaging Systems (XIS) propr...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 13. SCAN AND READ LITE & SCAN AND READ PROFESSIONAL
>>>> Scan and Read Lite and Scan and Read Professional are optical
>>>> character recognition programs designed for use by individuals who are
>>>> blind or have low vision. The user places a book, magazine, or document
>>>> on
>>>> a flatbed scanner and presses a key, and w...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14. SCAN N TALK
>>>> Scan N Talk is a voice output reading machine designed for use by
>>>> individuals who are blind or have low vision or learning disabilities.
>>>> This
>>>> reading machine incorporates a Visionaire scanner and optical character
>>>> recognition (OCR), ATT Natural Voice...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 15. SOFTWRITING
>>>> SoftWriting is an optical character recognition program designed
>>>> for
>>>> use by individuals with low vision. It enables the user to convert
>>>> non-connected handwritten text into a computer text file, such as a
>>>> Word
>>>> document or standard text document. The s...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 16. TEXT CLONER & TEXT CLONER PROFESSIONAL
>>>> Text Cloner and Text Cloner Professional are optical character
>>>> recognition programs designed for use by individuals who are blind or
>>>> have
>>>> low vision. These programs are comparable to Scan and Read (see
>>>> separate
>>>> entry) without an internal voice. They ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 17. TEXTBRIDGE PRO MILLENIUM
>>>> TextBridge Pro Millennium is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR)
>>>> program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have low
>>>> vision.
>>>> This OCR program turns scanned documents into Word files with a high
>>>> degree
>>>> of accuracy to reduce or elimina...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 18. VIP
>>>> VIP is an optical character recognition (OCR) program and low
>>>> vision
>>>> reading system designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
>>>> low
>>>> vision. The program scans printed documents, books, and magazines and
>>>> reads
>>>> them aloud. Text also appears on...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 19. WYNN WIZARD & WYNN READER
>>>> WYNN Wizard and WYNN Reader are voice output reading machine, web
>>>> browser, and optical character recognition (OCR) programs designed for
>>>> use
>>>> by individuals with learning disabilities. These software programs help
>>>> individuals with learning disabilitie...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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