[slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
- From: "Slavko Kovac" <slavko.kovac@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:21:02 +0100
Ja bih samo dodao da ako u Finereaderu namjestis automatsko okretanje=20
stranica onda je svejedno kako ces okrenuti stranicu, mozes i naopako jer=
ce=20
je program sam ispravno okrenuti. jedino je potrebno stranicu knjige dobr=
o=20
poravnati uz jedan bilo koji rub i dobro priljubiti stranice uz staklo.
Slavek
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Gordan Radic" <gordan.radic@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
Pozdrav, Igore.
Sad stvarno ne bih znao reci napamet, jer u zadnje vrijeme radim sa
skenerima kojima citac ide od dugmadi prema kabelima, a kod tebe je obrnu=
t
slucaj.
Pretpostavljam da bi trebao knjigu namjestiti uz gornji desni kut skenera=
, i
to na nacin ako je otvorena na pocetku da je tanja polovica postavljena
prema dugmadi, tj. da opticki citac prvo predje preko deblje polovice, pr=
ema
tanjoj.
U Fine Readerovim optionsima, pod stavkama za skener treba obavezno
ukljuciti 'Split dual pages', a bilo bi dobro da i u scanner settings, ko=
ji
se nalazi na istom tabu Paper size prebacis na Custom, a upises tocnu,
odnosno radi sigurnosti za centimetar povecanu dimenziju knjige kad je
otvorena. Time ces smanjiti vrijeme skeniranja, jer ce glava imati nesto
manji put prilikom citanja i skratiti ukupno vrijeme.
Sljedeci savjet, koji isto moze skratiti vrijeme samog skeniranja je da p=
rvo
odskeniras sve stranice, a tek ih onda das programu na prepoznavanje.
Znaci, ne ides na Scan and Read multiple pages, nego samo na Scan multipl=
e
pages, kratica na tastaturi je CTRL + Shift + K, barem u Fine Readeru 7.
Tek kad sve sto ti treba odskeniras, onda pronadjes u Process menju opcij=
u
Read All Pages (CTRL + Shift + R) i naredis programu da to sve zajedno
procita, a ti odes na pice s frendovima:).
Dobro, sad sam malo oduzio i na ono sto me nisi pitao, no nema veze. Samo=
cu
jos jednom ponoviti da je ono oko pravca knjige moja pretpostavka, te da =
bi
bilo najbolje to istestirati prakticno, pa se uz videcu pomoc ili
orijentaciju prema brojevima stranica uvjeriti slaze li Fine Reader u bat=
ch
stranice pravilno ili u cik-cak.
Regards
G
ICQ #274696026
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "igor" <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
> GORDANE DOBIO SAM UPUTE ZA FINE READER SAMO SAM MISLIO DA MI KA=AEETE
> PRAVILNO
> POSTAVLJANJE KNJIGA NA SKENER
> OSTALO JE VJEROVATNO KAO I KOD DRUGIH STVARI RAD I SAMO RAD PA =C6E SVE=
LE=C6I
> NA SVOJE
>
> IGOR
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Gordan Radic" <gordan.radic@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:17 PM
> Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
>
>
>> Pozdrav svima na ovoj temi i sire, odgovaram Igoru, no nije mi se dalo
>> traziti njegov mail pa evo saljem reply preko zadnjeg koji je stigao.
>> Skeniranje knjiga u Fine Readeru, kad se malo uhodas, nije uopce tesko=
.
>> No,
>> za uhodavanje ipak treba napisati odredjeni tekst s uputama, a za to s=
ad
>> nazalost nemam vremena. Mislim da je listom kruzio neki prirucnik za
>> koristenje Fine Readera, pa ako ovo procita mozebitni vlasnik, apelira=
o
>> bih
>> na njega da ti pripomogne oko toga.
>> No, ono sto je bitnije, a to je treci korak, nakon samog skeniranja i
>> prepoznavanja teksta je ispravljanje skeniranog teksta. Programi za
>> opticko
>> prepoznavanje cesto rade greske izmedju malog slova l i velikog slova =
I,
>> w
>> (dvostruko v) ce ako se u optionsima ne postavi dual language ce
>> prepoznati
>> kao dva obicna slova v, y ce isto tako pretvoriti u malo slovo v, kod
>> loseg
>> skena, ako knjiga nije dobro prislonjena na staklo ce malo slovo k
>> prepoznati kao slova l i c i jos puno, puno finesa.
>> Oko ispravljanja ti stvarno zelim srecu i nadam se da imas celicne ziv=
ce
>> i
>> strpljenje, jer nije nimalo lak posao.
>> Regards
>> G
>>
>> ICQ #274696026
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Zlatko Sobo=E8an" <sobocan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "SliKom (Lista)" <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:26 PM
>> Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
>>
>>
>>> Pozdrav svima,
>>>
>>> Ovo je tocno uz nekoliko napomena:
>>>
>>> * Od svih ovdje nabrojenih i nenabrojenih OCR softvera, jedino
>>> FineReader
>>> za
>>> nase jezike ima podrsku za kodni raspored i hrvatski, kao i srpski
>>> Spellchecker (provjeru pravopisa i pravilno napisane rijeci).
>>>
>>> * Cicero ima kodnu podrsku za nas kodni raspored, ali mu je engine
>>> Recognita
>>> 5 i nema spellchecker za nase jezike. Recognita 5 je bila aktuelna
>>> 2000./2001. godine.
>>>
>>> * OmniPage Pro i Text Bridge odlicno prepoznaju tekst, ali na njega
>>> primjenjuju USA spellchecker. Konacni rezultat skeniranja je na razin=
i
>>> FineReadera 4 ili Recognite 4.
>>>
>>> * Openbook ima neku gresku u kodnom rasporedu CE-1250 i nema hrvatski
>>> spellchecker, pa je konacni rezultat skeniranja dosta mrsav.
>>>
>>> * Kurzweil je odlican OCR program uz napomenu da njegova najnovija
>>> verzija
>>> ima engine od FineReadera 6 i nema nas spellchecker. Konacni rezultat=
je
>>> ispod rezultata skeniranja FineReadera 6. Najnovija verzija FineReade=
ra
>>> je
>>> 8.0.
>>>
>>> Ima jos napomena, ali da ne zamaram.
>>> FineReader je trenutno najbolji OCR program za nase jezike, pristupac=
an
>>> je
>>> svim citacima ekrana, jednostavan je za koristenje i po cijeni je
>>> prihvatljiv.
>>>
>>> Lijep pozdrav,
>>>
>>> Zlatko
>>>
>>> ----- Originalna poruka -----=20
>>> =A9alje: "Gradimir Kragic" <bastono@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Poslano: 21. sije=E8anj 2007 5:03
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Zdravo Igore, zdravo svima,
>>>>
>>>> Da ja malo zakomplikujem stvar i tebi i drugim. Ovo sto ti je
>>>> Gordan
>>>> odgovorio je uredu a odnosi se kada skeniras sliku. Kod skeniranja
>>>> teksta
>>>> i
>>>> njegovog prepoznavanja stvar je nesto drugacija. Vjerovatno da ce ti
>>>> Gordan
>>>> jos pisati a ja sam prihvatio poziv na Skype za vise detalja u vezi
>>>> Fine
>>>> Readera. Komplikacija sa moje strane je sledeca. Mi uglavnom govorim=
o o
>>>> programu Fine Reader za skeniranje knjiga odnosno tekstova. Taj prog=
ram
>>>> kao
>>>> i drugi programi su se rasirili zahvaljuci sledecim cinjenicama:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Da je dobar program i pristupacan korisnicima JAWS-a.
>>>> 2. Da je moguce njegovo instaliranje zahvaljuci krekovanju, mada mu =
je
>>>> cijena manja od 100 Eura.
>>>>
>>>> Postoji mnogo drugih programa koji su se koristili ili se korist=
e.
>>>> Evo
>>>> kako izgleda lista tih drugih programa koji su se koristili ili se
>>>> koriste.
>>>> Ovo tek da se zna da postoje i druga rjesenja. Slijedi lista od 19
>>>> programa. Uskoro o ovim programima vise detalja na web portalu sliko=
m.
>>>>
>>>> Nazalost tekst je na Engleskom jeziku.
>>>> 1. CICERO TEXT READER
>>>> Cicero Text Reader is a reading machine program designed for us=
e
>>>> by
>>>> individuals who are blind or have low vision. This reading machine
>>>> program
>>>> uses optical character recognition (OCR) to turn a personal or lapto=
p
>>>> computer connected to a scanner into ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. COMPLETE READING SYSTEM
>>>> The Complete Reading System is a voice output optical character
>>>> recognition program designed for use by individuals who are blind or
>>>> have
>>>> low vision. This OCR program is easy to use, since most of its
>>>> functions
>>>> can be activated with a press of a sing...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. EXTREME READER (MODEL ER-1)
>>>> Extreme Reader, model ER-1, is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR)
>>>> device designed for use by individuals who are blind or who have low
>>>> vision. This device is a stand-alone OCR system designed to convert
>>>> printed
>>>> text and text stored on compact dis...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. EXTREME READER (MODEL XR-10)
>>>> Extreme Reader, model XR-10, is an optical character recognitio=
n
>>>> (OCR) device designed for use by individuals with blindness or low
>>>> vision
>>>> or other print disabilities. This stand-alone OCR system converts
>>>> printed
>>>> text and text stored on compact disks...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. EZ VIP READING SYSTEM
>>>> The ezVIP Reading System is an optical character recognition
>>>> program
>>>> combined with a software speech synthesizer designed to convert a
>>>> personal
>>>> computer with a scanner into a reading machine for individuals who a=
re
>>>> blind or who have low vision. This ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5. KURZWEIL 1000
>>>> Kurzweil 1000 is an optical character recognition (OCR) program
>>>> with
>>>> voice output designed for individuals who are blind or have low visi=
on.
>>>> This software package runs on a personal computer connected to a
>>>> flatbed
>>>> scanner. It scans books, magazine ar...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6. KURZWEIL 3000 FOR MACINTOSH
>>>> Kurzweil 3000 for Macintosh is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR)
>>>> program with voice output designed for use by individuals with learn=
ing
>>>> disabilities. This software scans documents and reads scanned or
>>>> electronic
>>>> text aloud using synthetic speec...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 7. KURZWEIL 3000 FOR WINDOWS
>>>> Kurzweil 3000 for Windows is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR)
>>>> and test program with voice output designed for use by individuals w=
ith
>>>> dyslexia and other learning disabilities. This OCR software scans
>>>> documents
>>>> and reads scanned or electronic te...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8. LIBRETTE TURNKEY SYSTEM & LIBRA TURNKEY SYSTEM
>>>> The Librette Turnkey System and Libra Turnkey System are person=
al
>>>> computer systems pre-loaded with optical character recognition (OCR)=
,
>>>> screen magnification, web browser, and voice output software, design=
ed
>>>> for
>>>> use by individuals who are blind or hav...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 9. OBR OPTICAL BRAILLE RECOGNITION
>>>> OBR is an optical Braille recognition program designed for use =
by
>>>> individuals who are blind or who have low vision. This program reads
>>>> Braille characters and converts Braille hard copy into text or
>>>> formatted
>>>> Braille files. A Braille document is place...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10. OMNIPAGE PRO 14
>>>> OmniPage Pro 14 is a voice output optical character recognition
>>>> program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have low
>>>> vision.
>>>> The program converts scanned paper documents into text files in a
>>>> variety
>>>> of electronic formats, including Word,...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 11. OPENBOOK
>>>> OpenBook is an optical character recognition (OCR) program
>>>> designed
>>>> for use by individuals who are blind or have low vision. This scanni=
ng
>>>> and
>>>> reading software enables users to convert print documents or
>>>> graphic-based
>>>> text into an electronic text for...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 12. READING EDGE
>>>> The Reading Edge is a voice output reading machine designed for
>>>> use
>>>> by individuals who are blind or have low vision. This stand-alone
>>>> reading
>>>> machine integrates a bookedge scanner scanning at 300 dots per inch
>>>> (dpi),
>>>> Xerox Imaging Systems (XIS) propr...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 13. SCAN AND READ LITE & SCAN AND READ PROFESSIONAL
>>>> Scan and Read Lite and Scan and Read Professional are optical
>>>> character recognition programs designed for use by individuals who a=
re
>>>> blind or have low vision. The user places a book, magazine, or docum=
ent
>>>> on
>>>> a flatbed scanner and presses a key, and w...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14. SCAN N TALK
>>>> Scan N Talk is a voice output reading machine designed for use =
by
>>>> individuals who are blind or have low vision or learning disabilitie=
s.
>>>> This
>>>> reading machine incorporates a Visionaire scanner and optical charac=
ter
>>>> recognition (OCR), ATT Natural Voice...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 15. SOFTWRITING
>>>> SoftWriting is an optical character recognition program designe=
d
>>>> for
>>>> use by individuals with low vision. It enables the user to convert
>>>> non-connected handwritten text into a computer text file, such as a
>>>> Word
>>>> document or standard text document. The s...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 16. TEXT CLONER & TEXT CLONER PROFESSIONAL
>>>> Text Cloner and Text Cloner Professional are optical character
>>>> recognition programs designed for use by individuals who are blind o=
r
>>>> have
>>>> low vision. These programs are comparable to Scan and Read (see
>>>> separate
>>>> entry) without an internal voice. They ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 17. TEXTBRIDGE PRO MILLENIUM
>>>> TextBridge Pro Millennium is an optical character recognition
>>>> (OCR)
>>>> program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have low
>>>> vision.
>>>> This OCR program turns scanned documents into Word files with a high
>>>> degree
>>>> of accuracy to reduce or elimina...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 18. VIP
>>>> VIP is an optical character recognition (OCR) program and low
>>>> vision
>>>> reading system designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
>>>> low
>>>> vision. The program scans printed documents, books, and magazines an=
d
>>>> reads
>>>> them aloud. Text also appears on...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 19. WYNN WIZARD & WYNN READER
>>>> WYNN Wizard and WYNN Reader are voice output reading machine, w=
eb
>>>> browser, and optical character recognition (OCR) programs designed f=
or
>>>> use
>>>> by individuals with learning disabilities. These software programs h=
elp
>>>> individuals with learning disabilitie...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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