[slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
- From: "Slavko Kovac" <slavko.kovac@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:54:45 +0100
Kod mene ta opcija radi posve korektno. Imam skener Kenon Lide 500F i
Finereader 7.0.
Slavek
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordan Radic" <gordan.radic@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:10 PM
Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
Ne bih se slozio, Slavek.
Meni je ta opcija ukljucena, dapace, ukljucena je i po defaultu, no i ja i
jos par ljudi koje znam su znali dobiti cik cak rezultate ako bi krivo
okrenuli knjigu.
Regards
G
ICQ #274696026
----- Original Message -----
From: "Slavko Kovac" <slavko.kovac@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:21 PM
Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
> Ja bih samo dodao da ako u Finereaderu namjestis automatsko okretanje=20
> stranica onda je svejedno kako ces okrenuti stranicu, mozes i naopako jer=
> ce=20
> je program sam ispravno okrenuti. jedino je potrebno stranicu knjige dobr=
> o=20
> poravnati uz jedan bilo koji rub i dobro priljubiti stranice uz staklo.
> Slavek
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Gordan Radic" <gordan.radic@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:11 AM
> Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
>
>
> Pozdrav, Igore.
> Sad stvarno ne bih znao reci napamet, jer u zadnje vrijeme radim sa
> skenerima kojima citac ide od dugmadi prema kabelima, a kod tebe je obrnu=
> t
> slucaj.
> Pretpostavljam da bi trebao knjigu namjestiti uz gornji desni kut skenera=
> , i
> to na nacin ako je otvorena na pocetku da je tanja polovica postavljena
> prema dugmadi, tj. da opticki citac prvo predje preko deblje polovice, pr=
> ema
> tanjoj.
> U Fine Readerovim optionsima, pod stavkama za skener treba obavezno
> ukljuciti 'Split dual pages', a bilo bi dobro da i u scanner settings, ko=
> ji
> se nalazi na istom tabu Paper size prebacis na Custom, a upises tocnu,
> odnosno radi sigurnosti za centimetar povecanu dimenziju knjige kad je
> otvorena. Time ces smanjiti vrijeme skeniranja, jer ce glava imati nesto
> manji put prilikom citanja i skratiti ukupno vrijeme.
> Sljedeci savjet, koji isto moze skratiti vrijeme samog skeniranja je da p=
> rvo
> odskeniras sve stranice, a tek ih onda das programu na prepoznavanje.
> Znaci, ne ides na Scan and Read multiple pages, nego samo na Scan multipl=
> e
> pages, kratica na tastaturi je CTRL + Shift + K, barem u Fine Readeru 7.
> Tek kad sve sto ti treba odskeniras, onda pronadjes u Process menju opcij=
> u
> Read All Pages (CTRL + Shift + R) i naredis programu da to sve zajedno
> procita, a ti odes na pice s frendovima:).
> Dobro, sad sam malo oduzio i na ono sto me nisi pitao, no nema veze. Samo=
> cu
> jos jednom ponoviti da je ono oko pravca knjige moja pretpostavka, te da =
> bi
> bilo najbolje to istestirati prakticno, pa se uz videcu pomoc ili
> orijentaciju prema brojevima stranica uvjeriti slaze li Fine Reader u bat=
> ch
> stranice pravilno ili u cik-cak.
> Regards
> G
>
> ICQ #274696026
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "igor" <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:09 AM
> Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
>
>
>> GORDANE DOBIO SAM UPUTE ZA FINE READER SAMO SAM MISLIO DA MI KA=AEETE
>> PRAVILNO
>> POSTAVLJANJE KNJIGA NA SKENER
>> OSTALO JE VJEROVATNO KAO I KOD DRUGIH STVARI RAD I SAMO RAD PA =C6E SVE=
> LE=C6I
>> NA SVOJE
>>
>> IGOR
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Gordan Radic" <gordan.radic@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:17 PM
>> Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
>>
>>
>>> Pozdrav svima na ovoj temi i sire, odgovaram Igoru, no nije mi se dalo
>>> traziti njegov mail pa evo saljem reply preko zadnjeg koji je stigao.
>>> Skeniranje knjiga u Fine Readeru, kad se malo uhodas, nije uopce tesko=
> .
>>> No,
>>> za uhodavanje ipak treba napisati odredjeni tekst s uputama, a za to s=
> ad
>>> nazalost nemam vremena. Mislim da je listom kruzio neki prirucnik za
>>> koristenje Fine Readera, pa ako ovo procita mozebitni vlasnik, apelira=
> o
>>> bih
>>> na njega da ti pripomogne oko toga.
>>> No, ono sto je bitnije, a to je treci korak, nakon samog skeniranja i
>>> prepoznavanja teksta je ispravljanje skeniranog teksta. Programi za
>>> opticko
>>> prepoznavanje cesto rade greske izmedju malog slova l i velikog slova =
> I,
>>> w
>>> (dvostruko v) ce ako se u optionsima ne postavi dual language ce
>>> prepoznati
>>> kao dva obicna slova v, y ce isto tako pretvoriti u malo slovo v, kod
>>> loseg
>>> skena, ako knjiga nije dobro prislonjena na staklo ce malo slovo k
>>> prepoznati kao slova l i c i jos puno, puno finesa.
>>> Oko ispravljanja ti stvarno zelim srecu i nadam se da imas celicne ziv=
> ce
>>> i
>>> strpljenje, jer nije nimalo lak posao.
>>> Regards
>>> G
>>>
>>> ICQ #274696026
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Zlatko Sobo=E8an" <sobocan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "SliKom (Lista)" <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:26 PM
>>> Subject: [slikom] Re: pravilno postavljanje stranice
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pozdrav svima,
>>>>
>>>> Ovo je tocno uz nekoliko napomena:
>>>>
>>>> * Od svih ovdje nabrojenih i nenabrojenih OCR softvera, jedino
>>>> FineReader
>>>> za
>>>> nase jezike ima podrsku za kodni raspored i hrvatski, kao i srpski
>>>> Spellchecker (provjeru pravopisa i pravilno napisane rijeci).
>>>>
>>>> * Cicero ima kodnu podrsku za nas kodni raspored, ali mu je engine
>>>> Recognita
>>>> 5 i nema spellchecker za nase jezike. Recognita 5 je bila aktuelna
>>>> 2000./2001. godine.
>>>>
>>>> * OmniPage Pro i Text Bridge odlicno prepoznaju tekst, ali na njega
>>>> primjenjuju USA spellchecker. Konacni rezultat skeniranja je na razin=
> i
>>>> FineReadera 4 ili Recognite 4.
>>>>
>>>> * Openbook ima neku gresku u kodnom rasporedu CE-1250 i nema hrvatski
>>>> spellchecker, pa je konacni rezultat skeniranja dosta mrsav.
>>>>
>>>> * Kurzweil je odlican OCR program uz napomenu da njegova najnovija
>>>> verzija
>>>> ima engine od FineReadera 6 i nema nas spellchecker. Konacni rezultat=
> je
>>>> ispod rezultata skeniranja FineReadera 6. Najnovija verzija FineReade=
> ra
>>>> je
>>>> 8.0.
>>>>
>>>> Ima jos napomena, ali da ne zamaram.
>>>> FineReader je trenutno najbolji OCR program za nase jezike, pristupac=
> an
>>>> je
>>>> svim citacima ekrana, jednostavan je za koristenje i po cijeni je
>>>> prihvatljiv.
>>>>
>>>> Lijep pozdrav,
>>>>
>>>> Zlatko
>>>>
>>>> ----- Originalna poruka -----=20
>>>> =A9alje: "Gradimir Kragic" <bastono@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Poslano: 21. sije=E8anj 2007 5:03
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Zdravo Igore, zdravo svima,
>>>>>
>>>>> Da ja malo zakomplikujem stvar i tebi i drugim. Ovo sto ti je
>>>>> Gordan
>>>>> odgovorio je uredu a odnosi se kada skeniras sliku. Kod skeniranja
>>>>> teksta
>>>>> i
>>>>> njegovog prepoznavanja stvar je nesto drugacija. Vjerovatno da ce ti
>>>>> Gordan
>>>>> jos pisati a ja sam prihvatio poziv na Skype za vise detalja u vezi
>>>>> Fine
>>>>> Readera. Komplikacija sa moje strane je sledeca. Mi uglavnom govorim=
> o o
>>>>> programu Fine Reader za skeniranje knjiga odnosno tekstova. Taj prog=
> ram
>>>>> kao
>>>>> i drugi programi su se rasirili zahvaljuci sledecim cinjenicama:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Da je dobar program i pristupacan korisnicima JAWS-a.
>>>>> 2. Da je moguce njegovo instaliranje zahvaljuci krekovanju, mada mu =
> je
>>>>> cijena manja od 100 Eura.
>>>>>
>>>>> Postoji mnogo drugih programa koji su se koristili ili se korist=
> e.
>>>>> Evo
>>>>> kako izgleda lista tih drugih programa koji su se koristili ili se
>>>>> koriste.
>>>>> Ovo tek da se zna da postoje i druga rjesenja. Slijedi lista od 19
>>>>> programa. Uskoro o ovim programima vise detalja na web portalu sliko=
> m.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nazalost tekst je na Engleskom jeziku.
>>>>> 1. CICERO TEXT READER
>>>>> Cicero Text Reader is a reading machine program designed for us=
> e
>>>>> by
>>>>> individuals who are blind or have low vision. This reading machine
>>>>> program
>>>>> uses optical character recognition (OCR) to turn a personal or lapto=
> p
>>>>> computer connected to a scanner into ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. COMPLETE READING SYSTEM
>>>>> The Complete Reading System is a voice output optical character
>>>>> recognition program designed for use by individuals who are blind or
>>>>> have
>>>>> low vision. This OCR program is easy to use, since most of its
>>>>> functions
>>>>> can be activated with a press of a sing...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. EXTREME READER (MODEL ER-1)
>>>>> Extreme Reader, model ER-1, is an optical character recognition
>>>>> (OCR)
>>>>> device designed for use by individuals who are blind or who have low
>>>>> vision. This device is a stand-alone OCR system designed to convert
>>>>> printed
>>>>> text and text stored on compact dis...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. EXTREME READER (MODEL XR-10)
>>>>> Extreme Reader, model XR-10, is an optical character recognitio=
> n
>>>>> (OCR) device designed for use by individuals with blindness or low
>>>>> vision
>>>>> or other print disabilities. This stand-alone OCR system converts
>>>>> printed
>>>>> text and text stored on compact disks...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. EZ VIP READING SYSTEM
>>>>> The ezVIP Reading System is an optical character recognition
>>>>> program
>>>>> combined with a software speech synthesizer designed to convert a
>>>>> personal
>>>>> computer with a scanner into a reading machine for individuals who a=
> re
>>>>> blind or who have low vision. This ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. KURZWEIL 1000
>>>>> Kurzweil 1000 is an optical character recognition (OCR) program
>>>>> with
>>>>> voice output designed for individuals who are blind or have low visi=
> on.
>>>>> This software package runs on a personal computer connected to a
>>>>> flatbed
>>>>> scanner. It scans books, magazine ar...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. KURZWEIL 3000 FOR MACINTOSH
>>>>> Kurzweil 3000 for Macintosh is an optical character recognition
>>>>> (OCR)
>>>>> program with voice output designed for use by individuals with learn=
> ing
>>>>> disabilities. This software scans documents and reads scanned or
>>>>> electronic
>>>>> text aloud using synthetic speec...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. KURZWEIL 3000 FOR WINDOWS
>>>>> Kurzweil 3000 for Windows is an optical character recognition
>>>>> (OCR)
>>>>> and test program with voice output designed for use by individuals w=
> ith
>>>>> dyslexia and other learning disabilities. This OCR software scans
>>>>> documents
>>>>> and reads scanned or electronic te...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. LIBRETTE TURNKEY SYSTEM & LIBRA TURNKEY SYSTEM
>>>>> The Librette Turnkey System and Libra Turnkey System are person=
> al
>>>>> computer systems pre-loaded with optical character recognition (OCR)=
> ,
>>>>> screen magnification, web browser, and voice output software, design=
> ed
>>>>> for
>>>>> use by individuals who are blind or hav...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 9. OBR OPTICAL BRAILLE RECOGNITION
>>>>> OBR is an optical Braille recognition program designed for use =
> by
>>>>> individuals who are blind or who have low vision. This program reads
>>>>> Braille characters and converts Braille hard copy into text or
>>>>> formatted
>>>>> Braille files. A Braille document is place...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 10. OMNIPAGE PRO 14
>>>>> OmniPage Pro 14 is a voice output optical character recognition
>>>>> program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have low
>>>>> vision.
>>>>> The program converts scanned paper documents into text files in a
>>>>> variety
>>>>> of electronic formats, including Word,...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 11. OPENBOOK
>>>>> OpenBook is an optical character recognition (OCR) program
>>>>> designed
>>>>> for use by individuals who are blind or have low vision. This scanni=
> ng
>>>>> and
>>>>> reading software enables users to convert print documents or
>>>>> graphic-based
>>>>> text into an electronic text for...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 12. READING EDGE
>>>>> The Reading Edge is a voice output reading machine designed for
>>>>> use
>>>>> by individuals who are blind or have low vision. This stand-alone
>>>>> reading
>>>>> machine integrates a bookedge scanner scanning at 300 dots per inch
>>>>> (dpi),
>>>>> Xerox Imaging Systems (XIS) propr...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 13. SCAN AND READ LITE & SCAN AND READ PROFESSIONAL
>>>>> Scan and Read Lite and Scan and Read Professional are optical
>>>>> character recognition programs designed for use by individuals who a=
> re
>>>>> blind or have low vision. The user places a book, magazine, or docum=
> ent
>>>>> on
>>>>> a flatbed scanner and presses a key, and w...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 14. SCAN N TALK
>>>>> Scan N Talk is a voice output reading machine designed for use =
> by
>>>>> individuals who are blind or have low vision or learning disabilitie=
> s.
>>>>> This
>>>>> reading machine incorporates a Visionaire scanner and optical charac=
> ter
>>>>> recognition (OCR), ATT Natural Voice...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 15. SOFTWRITING
>>>>> SoftWriting is an optical character recognition program designe=
> d
>>>>> for
>>>>> use by individuals with low vision. It enables the user to convert
>>>>> non-connected handwritten text into a computer text file, such as a
>>>>> Word
>>>>> document or standard text document. The s...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 16. TEXT CLONER & TEXT CLONER PROFESSIONAL
>>>>> Text Cloner and Text Cloner Professional are optical character
>>>>> recognition programs designed for use by individuals who are blind o=
> r
>>>>> have
>>>>> low vision. These programs are comparable to Scan and Read (see
>>>>> separate
>>>>> entry) without an internal voice. They ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 17. TEXTBRIDGE PRO MILLENIUM
>>>>> TextBridge Pro Millennium is an optical character recognition
>>>>> (OCR)
>>>>> program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have low
>>>>> vision.
>>>>> This OCR program turns scanned documents into Word files with a high
>>>>> degree
>>>>> of accuracy to reduce or elimina...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 18. VIP
>>>>> VIP is an optical character recognition (OCR) program and low
>>>>> vision
>>>>> reading system designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
>>>>> low
>>>>> vision. The program scans printed documents, books, and magazines an=
> d
>>>>> reads
>>>>> them aloud. Text also appears on...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 19. WYNN WIZARD & WYNN READER
>>>>> WYNN Wizard and WYNN Reader are voice output reading machine, w=
> eb
>>>>> browser, and optical character recognition (OCR) programs designed f=
> or
>>>>> use
>>>>> by individuals with learning disabilities. These software programs h=
> elp
>>>>> individuals with learning disabilitie...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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