[vicsireland] Re: Apache Open Office improved accessibility
- From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@xxxxxxx>
- To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 13:59:29 +0100
Ronan,
I'm still searching for the range just as you are.
I found that F8 sets automatic selection on. For example, If I am placed in
A4 and then press F8, I hear nothing but if I then press down arrow I hear
"selected A5, and after down arrow again I hear selected A6. If I have a
value in A4 then I can prove that I have selected the range A4:A6 by typing
"alt e I d" (these are sequential keystrokes). The contents of A4 are now
copied down into A5 and A6 Isn't this the range selection we are looking
for? My next question is how to jump to a specific cell?
All the best,
Cearbhall
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[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ronan McGuirk
Sent: 14 May 2014 15:57
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Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Apache Open Office improved accessibility
Hi Cearbhall,
Like you I have been looking for the way to extend selection.
I thought at first that the name box (Control shift F 5) would let me key in
a range. It lets you enter the range but for some reason I can't get it to
actually select the range that is keyed in. I guess I will have to Google
this some more!
Ronan
On 14/05/2014, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ronan,
>
> I am currently looking at open Office calc with NVDA in the latest
release.
> I can confirm that it is performing almost completely as fluently as
Excel.
> I can enter data and code formulas perfectly. The editor is a bit
> dodgy when moving the cursor from left to right across the text of a
> formula in edit mode 2pressing F2). NVDA reads the entire formula
> perfectly when the cursor is placed on the equal sign by pressing the
> home key. He solution of selecting al the text and then editing in
> notepad provides a work around. I notice that JAWS cannot do this at
> all. Also I find that JaWS has similar trouble with Excel 2010 so I
> still count this as accessible in Open Office.
>
> I found that I could create a fill series of my own and fill down a
> repeating lsit. This is different from excel bu I was able to paly
> around with this tool perfectly in Open Office.
>
> On serious problem in Open Office was to do with formatting a cel or
> range of cels. Highlighting is no problem but when I open the format
> function (application key - f as in Excel) The category name is not
readable.
> However, NVDA states that the category is, say, "3 of 11". I tabbed
> away from the field and then shited tab back again and NVDA was then
> able to speak the category name. All the other fields in the format
> property were adjustable and fully accessible.
>
> I am not clear how to select a range. In excel, I do this my pressing
> F8 at the start and pressing F5 to go to the last cell in the range.
> How should I do this in Calc?
>
> Another difficulty I had was with Help in Open Office. I found it
> impossible to get an answer to my query. This was probably because I
> was using the same methods that I use in Exce. I found it best to use
> Google to find the answer that I needed. Again, this is sometimes the
> best way to get an answer when using excel because so many of the
> Excel help screens are just not accessible.
>
> The alt- Page UP and alt- page down commands work perfectly to switch
> between worksheets within the same workbook in Calc.
>
> I hope these observations hep.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joshue O'Connor
> Sent: 14 May 2014 12:22
> To: vicsireland; Ronan McGuirk
> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Apache Open Office improved accessibility
>
> Hi Ronan,
>
> Thanks for the news. It would be great to hear more about how you find it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronan McGuirk <ronan.p.mcguirk@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: vicsireland <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 11:59:36 +0100
> Subject: [vicsireland] Apache Open Office improved accessibility
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As many of you may know, Open Office is a free open source package
>> that is similar to MS Office.
>> At the end of April, Apache Open Office 4.1 was released. This
>> included a major accessibility enhancement - it now uses iAccessible2
>> rather than relying on Java Access Bridge.
>>
>> I have begun looking at Open Office 4.1 with NVDA. First impressions
>> are good.
>>
>> Has anyone else on this list had any experience with Open Office 4.1 ?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ronan
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