[vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 15:52:55 +0100

The *exact* phraseology, quotation signs and > signs and ... excepted,
is:  "1 You are not permitted to place an electronic copy of the PAS78
> document on your personal, company or organisation?s internal or
" external IT network..."  So, you can download it onto your computer,
but not onto your network.  Interesting though the document may be, the
listserv isn't supposed to permit attachments.  that may be one
disadvantage of freelists!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Dunleavy" <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice


Hi Mark,

I think a lawyer could have great fun with "terms" as absurd as these.
Item 1 indicates that you are not permitted to place a copy
on your personal computer.
But how can you read it without having a copy on your computer and
still be in compliance with the terms?
Perhaps the best thing to do is not to agree to such obnoxious
terms and conditions and continue to lobby the BSI / DRC for
reasonable terms of use.
Accordingly, I have removed all traces of this hazardous waste from
my system.

--Jim

----- Original Message -----
>From: Mark Magennis <Mark.magennis@xxxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:45 AM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice


> Johan,
>
> Sending this HTML version of PAS78 to the list breaches the terms and
> conditions of use. I don't wish to make a value judgement here as to
> whether this is ethical or not, but it clearly breaches the terms and
> conditions, so the VICS list moderators should be made aware of this.
> The terms and conditions are as follows (see number 1 inparticular):
>
> Terms & Conditions of download of PAS78
> Under the terms of the BSI licence number 2006CO0066, by which this
> document is available for access, download, viewing, searching and
> printing, the following terms and conditions apply
>
> 1 You are not permitted to place an electronic copy of the PAS78
> document on your personal, company or organisation?s internal or
> external IT network nor are you permitted to take extracts from,
> expand, modify or otherwise alter the Work in any way or include
> these in other documentation. By completing the end user registration
> form, you are permitted to print one copy of the licensed standard
> (if required), for use at any one time.
>
> 2 You shall not exploit the Work or any part of it commercially nor
> sell, rent, loan (with or without payment), hire out nor post any of
> the contents of the Work to any electronic bulletin board.
>
> 3 This document (PAS78) should not be sold or bundled or otherwise
> distributed as part of a package with any other computer software or
> hardware or with any other material of any description.
>
> 4 By completing the download registration form, you agree to being
> contacted by the Disability Rights Commission, BSI or their agent in
> connection with the use of this document.
>
> PAS 78: 2006 is reproduced with the permission of the British
> Standards Institution (BSI) under licence number 2006CO0066.
> Copyright subsists in all BSI publications.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 4 Jul 2006, at 09:56, Johan Grove wrote:
>
> > Please find attached the PAS78 in Htm format.
> > Johan
> > Pretoria
> > South Africa
>
> > From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-
> > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Dunleavy
> > Sent: 04 July 2006 09:17
> > To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Where can one download the HTML version of
> > PAS 78: a guide to good practice in commissioning accessible
websites?
> >
> > --Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Frank Mulcahy
> > To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; irl-dean@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:30 AM
> > Subject: [vicsireland] UK Guide to Good Practice
> >
> > Dear All,
> > Apologies for cross posting.
> > PAS 78: a guide to good practice in commissioning accessible
> > websites <!-- function SymError() { return true; } window.onerror =
> > SymError; var SymRealWinOpen = window.open; function SymWinOpen
> > (url, name, attributes) { return (new Object()); } window.open =
> > SymWinOpen; file://--> function getkey(e){if(window.event){return
> > window.event.keyCode;}else if(e){return e.which};else{return null;}}
> > PAS 78: A guide to good practice in commissioning accessible
> > websites? is for those responsible for commissioning or maintaining
> > public-facing websites and web-based services.
> > The guidance is available in Word and PDF formats.
> >
> > One electronic copy of the guidance is available free per
> > individual or business. The guidance can be read or searched
> > online, or printed.
> >
> > PAS 78 was developed by the British Standards Institution (BSI) and
> > sponsored by the DRC.  The guide is available at: http://www.drc-
> > gb.org/pas
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Frank Mulcahy,
> > 'Franmar',
> > 2 Castle Village Court,
> > Celbridge,
> > Co. Kildare
> > Ireland
> >
> > Tel.: +353 (0)1 627 1314
> > Mobile/Cell Phone: +353 (0)87 2344 934
> > E-mail: fmulcahy@xxxxxx  or
> > frankmulcahy2005@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > <PAS 78.htm>
>
> Dr. Mark Magennis
> Director of the Centre for Inclusive Technology (CFIT)
> National Council for the Blind of Ireland
> Whitworth Road, Dublin 9, Republic of Ireland
> www.cfit.ie
>
> mark.magennis@xxxxxxx   tel: +353 (0)71 914 7464
>
>
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