[vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice
- From: "Tim Culhane" <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:11:51 +0100
And what is "easy read" anyway?
-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Dunleavy
Sent: 05 July 2006 09:44
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice
Hi Flor,
If you download it at your workplace, the document will inevitably end up on
a network-accessible disk drive. We can only guess at the intentions of the
BSI here.
Visiting the BSI website, I found the following surreal nugget:
PAS 78 is also available to purchase from BSI Customer Services in the
following formats:
large print, easy read, audio, braille, daisy, Welsh.
Is Welsh some strange new data format I've never heard of before?
--Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch <florlync@xxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice
> The *exact* phraseology, quotation signs and > signs and ... excepted,
> is: "1 You are not permitted to place an electronic copy of the PAS78
> > document on your personal, company or organisation's internal or
> " external IT network..." So, you can download it onto your computer,
> but not onto your network. Interesting though the document may be,
> the listserv isn't supposed to permit attachments. that may be one
> disadvantage of freelists!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Dunleavy" <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:00 PM
> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I think a lawyer could have great fun with "terms" as absurd as these.
> Item 1 indicates that you are not permitted to place a copy on your
> personal computer. But how can you read it without having a copy on
> your computer and still be in compliance with the terms?
> Perhaps the best thing to do is not to agree to such obnoxious
> terms and conditions and continue to lobby the BSI / DRC for
> reasonable terms of use.
> Accordingly, I have removed all traces of this hazardous waste from
> my system.
>
> --Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Mark Magennis <Mark.magennis@xxxxxxx>
> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:45 AM
> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice
>
>
> > Johan,
> >
> > Sending this HTML version of PAS78 to the list breaches the terms
> > and conditions of use. I don't wish to make a value judgement here
> > as to whether this is ethical or not, but it clearly breaches the
> > terms and conditions, so the VICS list moderators should be made
> > aware of this. The terms and conditions are as follows (see number 1
> > inparticular):
> >
> > Terms & Conditions of download of PAS78
> > Under the terms of the BSI licence number 2006CO0066, by which this
> > document is available for access, download, viewing, searching and
> > printing, the following terms and conditions apply
> >
> > 1 You are not permitted to place an electronic copy of the PAS78
> > document on your personal, company or organisation's internal or
> > external IT network nor are you permitted to take extracts from,
> > expand, modify or otherwise alter the Work in any way or include
> > these in other documentation. By completing the end user
> > registration form, you are permitted to print one copy of the
> > licensed standard (if required), for use at any one time.
> >
> > 2 You shall not exploit the Work or any part of it commercially nor
> > sell, rent, loan (with or without payment), hire out nor post any of
> > the contents of the Work to any electronic bulletin board.
> >
> > 3 This document (PAS78) should not be sold or bundled or otherwise
> > distributed as part of a package with any other computer software or
> > hardware or with any other material of any description.
> >
> > 4 By completing the download registration form, you agree to being
> > contacted by the Disability Rights Commission, BSI or their agent in
> > connection with the use of this document.
> >
> > PAS 78: 2006 is reproduced with the permission of the British
> > Standards Institution (BSI) under licence number 2006CO0066.
> > Copyright subsists in all BSI publications.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On 4 Jul 2006, at 09:56, Johan Grove wrote:
> >
> > > Please find attached the PAS78 in Htm format.
> > > Johan
> > > Pretoria
> > > South Africa
> >
> > > From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-
> > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Dunleavy
> > > Sent: 04 July 2006 09:17
> > > To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [vicsireland] Re: UK Guide to Good Practice
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Where can one download the HTML version of
> > > PAS 78: a guide to good practice in commissioning accessible
> websites?
> > >
> > > --Jim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Frank Mulcahy
> > > To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; irl-dean@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:30 AM
> > > Subject: [vicsireland] UK Guide to Good Practice
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > > Apologies for cross posting.
> > > PAS 78: a guide to good practice in commissioning accessible
> > > websites <!-- function SymError() { return true; } window.onerror
> > > = SymError; var SymRealWinOpen = window.open; function SymWinOpen
> > > (url, name, attributes) { return (new Object()); } window.open =
> > > SymWinOpen; file://--> function getkey(e){if(window.event){return
> > > window.event.keyCode;}else if(e){return e.which};else{return
> > > null;}} PAS 78: A guide to good practice in commissioning
> > > accessible websites' is for those responsible for commissioning or
> > > maintaining public-facing websites and web-based services. The
> > > guidance is available in Word and PDF formats.
> > >
> > > One electronic copy of the guidance is available free per
> > > individual or business. The guidance can be read or searched
> > > online, or printed.
> > >
> > > PAS 78 was developed by the British Standards Institution (BSI)
> > > and sponsored by the DRC. The guide is available at:
> > > http://www.drc- gb.org/pas
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Frank Mulcahy,
> > > 'Franmar',
> > > 2 Castle Village Court,
> > > Celbridge,
> > > Co. Kildare
> > > Ireland
> > >
> > > Tel.: +353 (0)1 627 1314
> > > Mobile/Cell Phone: +353 (0)87 2344 934
> > > E-mail: fmulcahy@xxxxxx or
> > > frankmulcahy2005@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > <PAS 78.htm>
> >
> > Dr. Mark Magennis
> > Director of the Centre for Inclusive Technology (CFIT) National
> > Council for the Blind of Ireland Whitworth Road, Dublin 9, Republic
> > of Ireland www.cfit.ie
> >
> > mark.magennis@xxxxxxx tel: +353 (0)71 914 7464
> >
> >
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