[access-uk] Re: Jaws license annoyance, thinking of swapping to window eyes

  • From: John Gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:44:37 +0000

Hi Mike very interesting about your chess experience.
Well fritz is about £39 but the most accessible fritz is the fritz9 and in this program you can actually go in to the menus and alter things. you can in the most up to date version press control alt o to get in to options where you can change things and one thing is the multimedia tab where you can get fritz speaking out moves. the big difficulty for a strong player in fritz or hiarcs is the studying of chess games in the fritz database. now if in the fritz program you press the escape key it brings up a massive database of millions of games. you can cursor down the games or say put in a search for say Karpov and it brings up all his games. now if you press enter on a game it then puts the moves of that game in to fritz. 
jaws is the only screen reader which will speak out the moves.
so when we played in the chess olympiad in India we put searches in for our opponents and could see there games which at that level was a real plus. 
many players were graded over 2300 which is very strong.
fritz for a chess player is brilliant.
ironically on the iphone for £5 you can get shredder chess and it's accessible as well telling you all the squares and which piece is on a square. 
it speaks out your move and it's move.
the only way to acquire a fritz9 is from amazon.
thanks for getting back will look in more to nvda.
I have window eyes but can not aford nearly one thousand pounds for jaws plus the upgrades it is a lot of money. if chess were tennis I could aford it "smile" cheers then be interested to see if any mac users play chess on the mac. 
At 18:31 09/01/2013, you wrote:

John,

If you go to the NVDA pages you will find a link to a developers mailing list.

The developers are there most of the time and are very pro-active.
I have started writing plug-ins for NVDA and it has been a great way to learn Python.
How much does Fritz cost? Many years ago I belonged to Godalming Chess Club for a few years and got very serious about it. Of course I could see back then. 

I have been meaning to join the Braille Chess Association.
Incidentally there is a guy in Canada writing an NVDA plugin for the Gnu Chess internet client...another piece of free rubbish. 

Mike


On 09/01/2013 16:57, John Gallagher wrote:

Hi Mike wonder if you can help
I do use nvda with the other voices as well but when I use my chess
software it will not work as good as jaws.
How can I ask the developers about it.
the chess program is called fritz. or hiarcs or deep rybka4 it would be
great to ask them to have a look at it.
cheers there.
At 16:52 09/01/2013, you wrote:

Hello Terry,

Why don't you give NVDA a try before you commit to spending another
wadge of cash?

It's easy to download and install and most of the key-bindings are the
same as those for Jaws.

http://www.nvda-project.org/

There is a vibrant and lively support forum also.

Mike


On 09/01/2013 16:15, terry wrote:

Hi all

I won't bore you with my rant about having to keep asking for my dam
jaws
keys to be re-setby FS, as it's long.

What I wanted to know, is how window eyes is activated and or
authorised.

Is it the same annoying method that FS use, or a sensible mainstream
method,
i.e. you are provided with a serial number, and can install it on
your own
pc as many times as you choose.

Thanks for any help.

Terry

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audible Books

Hi Andy

For the moment I'm only using the Scandisk Clip+ for a trial period.
I don't
think this device has any more than track ability available. If I get on
well with using extra books I am considering the Victor Reader Stream.

Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrien Collins
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:07 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audible Books

Hi Roger

If you are using a victor stream or perhaps a booksense, you can
rewind by 1
minute or 5 or 10 and even up to 30 on the stream, not sure about the
booksense, how would this work on the plextalk pocket I wonder?

Adrien


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Sent: 07 January 2013 21:43
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Subject: [access-uk] Audible Books

Hi All

I've just joined the Audible UK book library and have just downloaded my
first book. Quite a long one at 32 hours and only in 4 parts. This
means if
I need to go back over ground already read I can only do so by going
back to
the start of the current track which are around 8 hours long. It
would be
just great to break these down into smaller tracks but the file
format is
.aa which I understand is Audible's encrypted system which is not
breakable
by any software available.

If this is correct does anyone know of a solution to my problem, please.

Many thanks

Roger

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