Terry,I've been in IT for over twenty years so I've come across the resistance to certain things, free things, being installed on corporate platforms, but I would guess that most of the IT managers that make such rules are also, at the same time using several Open Source tools such as server operating systems, web server applications etc. The take up of Firefox also suggests this.
Likely opposition is probably going to be that with a purchased product you get guaranteed support. But in my experience that leaves a lot to be desired.
There are lists for support of NVDA and for developers too. The user-base is increasing quickly.
I will never go back to paying for access software for the desktop as long as a viable alternative exists.
There is no way that being visually impaired should mean you pay 3 or 4 times the cost of your PC just to make it possible for you to use it.
And of course there's the endless upgrade treadmill. I'd equate these software vendors with drug dealers who give the first few fixes to customers knowing they will get hooked and come back for more at an inflated price.
Mike On 09/01/2013 17:12, terry wrote:
I do use nvda from time to time and find it reasonably okay, though not as smooth as jfw. I've used jaws since version 3.2, and have probably spent several thousands of pounds over the years. I'd also have to find out if my employer would allow it on their systems. Knowing them as I do, the answer would probably be no. Out of interest though, is there anyone on the list who uses nvda on a large network at work? Thanks Terry -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael A. Ray Sent: 09 January 2013 16:52 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws license annoyance, thinking of swapping to window eyes Hello Terry, Why don't you give NVDA a try before you commit to spending another wadge of cash? It's easy to download and install and most of the key-bindings are the same as those for Jaws. http://www.nvda-project.org/ There is a vibrant and lively support forum also. Mike On 09/01/2013 16:15, terry wrote:Hi all I won't bore you with my rant about having to keep asking for my dam jaws keys to be re-setby FS, as it's long. What I wanted to know, is how window eyes is activated and or authorised. Is it the same annoying method that FS use, or a sensible mainstream method, i.e. you are provided with a serial number, and can install it on your own pc as many times as you choose. Thanks for any help. Terry -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: 09 January 2013 16:02 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audible Books Hi Andy For the moment I'm only using the Scandisk Clip+ for a trial period. I don't think this device has any more than track ability available. If I get on well with using extra books I am considering the Victor ReaderStream.Roger -----Original Message----- From: Adrien Collins Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:07 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audible Books Hi Roger If you are using a victor stream or perhaps a booksense, you can rewind by 1 minute or 5 or 10 and even up to 30 on the stream, not sure about the booksense, how would this work on the plextalk pocket Iwonder?Adrien -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: 07 January 2013 21:43 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Audible Books Hi All I've just joined the Audible UK book library and have just downloaded my first book. Quite a long one at 32 hours and only in 4 parts. This means if I need to go back over ground already read I can only do so by going back to the start of the current track which are around 8 hours long. It would be just great to break these down into smaller tracks but the file format is .aa which I understand is Audible's encrypted system which is not breakable by any software available. If this is correct does anyone know of a solution to my problem, please. 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