[access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?

  • From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:22:46 +0100

Funny Damon, I had the same experience as you did with them. Certainly wasn't finger on the pulse!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> 

To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
I am a member as far as I'm aware. I got a phone call some years ago asking if I wanted to join and get a free magazine. Didn't really hear 
anything after that.


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Dave Taylor
Sent: 21 July 2010 21:29
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
I suggest you join and find out! Go to their website and find the link 
to join!

Cheers
Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Damon Rose
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:21 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
I don't doubt it Dave. So how does one go about liaising with the RNIB 
on these matters. I'm not sure it's all that clear.

Is there a point of contact?



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Dave Taylor
Sent: 21 July 2010 19:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
As we're talking about the wide area of legislation on gadgets and accessibility in general, the answer has to be RNIB. Whatever you think of them, they have been the most effective campaign organisation we have 
for many years!



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Damon Rose
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:11 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
So which UK organisation should one join if you want to influence this 
kind of thing, Dave?





-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Dave Taylor
Sent: 20 July 2010 13:38
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
Ah yes, that'll be the American blind lobby who put their money where their mouths are and join and support organisations, something fewer and 
fewer will do here!


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Damon Rose
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:29 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
Well as RNIB's John Godbur was quietly suggesting on this list a few weeks ago, blind people in the UK don't shout loud enough, Colin. If we did then legislation might happen to force manufacturers and service providers into this. It would influence rich media creators. It strikes me that legislation is the only way forward and there's not enough talk 
about it here.
It's thanks to the strength of the US disability and blind lobby that things like iPhone are now accessible across the world, for instance. 

...Damon









-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Colin Fowler
Sent: 20 July 2010 12:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
I wholly agree, but I don't think that we're going to be able to influence the reliance on rich media content; look at Jonathon Hassles 
approach to this and maybe I am wrong.
----- Original Message ----- From: Damon Rose <mailto:damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:21 PM
Subject: [access-uk] What do you consider inaccessible?


In all my web browsing, I find that my biggest problem is
websites that make jaws freeze or whip the cursor away.
Lots of talk goes into accessibility of websites, putting in alt text, adding header tags, but the worst sites are the dynamic ones that have oodles of functionality and applets ... even if you don't use them 
they seem to affect the readability of the page.
Usually I just want to read a page. I can live without header tags and alt text and the other little accessibliity tickboxes like using CSS structuring instead of tables. I can live with all that ... but I can't use websites that jump around all over the place cos they're 
loaded with fun.
What I want to know is ... is it just me? Please respond because 
I'm keen to refocus the accessibility debate if I'm right.

...Damon







Damon Rose
Senior Content Producer bbc.co.uk/ouch
BBC Vision Learning

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email: damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx
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