[access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:47:59 +0100
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At the time there wasn't a fee. Or I wasn't told there was a fee. But
looking at the site today I'm not really finding the kind of thing I'm
after. I get the feeling that local fora won't be the kind of places to
bring up technology legislation. But I'd happily stand corrected if
someone has any positive or interesting experiences on this.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mike Moore
Sent: 21 July 2010 23:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
Funny Damon, I had the same experience as you did with them.
Certainly wasn't finger on the pulse!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
>I am a member as far as I'm aware. I got a phone call some
>years ago
> asking if I wanted to join and get a free magazine. Didn't
> really hear
> anything after that.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Dave Taylor
> Sent: 21 July 2010 21:29
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider
> inaccessible?
>
> I suggest you join and find out! Go to their website and
> find the link
> to join!
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Damon Rose
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:21 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider
> inaccessible?
>
> I don't doubt it Dave. So how does one go about liaising
> with the RNIB
> on these matters. I'm not sure it's all that clear.
>
> Is there a point of contact?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Dave Taylor
> Sent: 21 July 2010 19:51
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider
> inaccessible?
>
> As we're talking about the wide area of legislation on
> gadgets and
> accessibility in general, the answer has to be RNIB.
> Whatever you think
> of them, they have been the most effective campaign
> organisation we have
> for many years!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Damon Rose
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:11 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider
> inaccessible?
>
> So which UK organisation should one join if you want to
> influence this
> kind of thing, Dave?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Dave Taylor
> Sent: 20 July 2010 13:38
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider
> inaccessible?
>
> Ah yes, that'll be the American blind lobby who put their
> money where
> their mouths are and join and support organisations,
> something fewer and
> fewer will do here!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Damon Rose
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:29 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider
> inaccessible?
>
> Well as RNIB's John Godbur was quietly suggesting on this
> list a few
> weeks ago, blind people in the UK don't shout loud enough,
> Colin. If we
> did then legislation might happen to force manufacturers
> and service
> providers into this. It would influence rich media
> creators. It strikes
> me that legislation is the only way forward and there's
> not enough talk
> about it here.
>
> It's thanks to the strength of the US disability and blind
> lobby that
> things like iPhone are now accessible across the world,
> for instance.
>
> ...Damon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Colin Fowler
> Sent: 20 July 2010 12:28
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider
> inaccessible?
>
> I wholly agree, but I don't think that we're going to be
> able to
> influence the reliance on rich media content; look at
> Jonathon Hassles
> approach to this and maybe I am wrong.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Damon Rose <mailto:damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:21 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] What do you consider inaccessible?
>
>
> In all my web browsing, I find that my biggest problem is
> websites that make jaws freeze or whip the cursor away.
>
> Lots of talk goes into accessibility of websites, putting
> in alt
> text, adding header tags, but the worst sites are the
> dynamic ones that
> have oodles of functionality and applets ... even if you
> don't use them
> they seem to affect the readability of the page.
>
> Usually I just want to read a page. I can live without
> header
> tags and alt text and the other little accessibliity
> tickboxes like
> using CSS structuring instead of tables. I can live with
> all that ...
> but I can't use websites that jump around all over the
> place cos they're
> loaded with fun.
>
> What I want to know is ... is it just me? Please respond
> because
> I'm keen to refocus the accessibility debate if I'm right.
>
> ...Damon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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