[AR] Re: DARPA responsive launch challenge

  • From: Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:42:40 -0700

Well, no - but there are significant numbers of people on this list who aren't actually working for a smallsat startup who nevertheless might have an interesting opinion.

So far, the only visible consensus is "ignore this, because the last DARPA smallsat initiative blowed up REAL good!" Fair enough, I suppose. It's a datum (of sorts) that this new prize initiative fails to excite much of anyone here. (Wanders off, bemused...)

Henry

On 4/22/2018 10:55 AM, Monroe L. King Jr. wrote:

My point exactly on the 400k.

Nope I don't think people actually doing it want to talk much about it.

Monroe

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Subject: [AR] Re: DARPA responsive launch challenge
From: Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, April 22, 2018 10:45 am
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


It occurs to me that the $400K for getting FAA AST approval could be
pretty close to free money for something a company must do anyway,
regardless of whether taking part in the actual launch challenges makes
sense for a company.

(Doesn't anyone want to talk about the actual tens-of-millions-in-prizes
smallsat launch competition on offer here?  Very odd.)

Henry

On 4/21/2018 7:59 PM, Henry Vanderbilt wrote:
The actual parameters of this contest are interesting.

http://www.darpalaunchchallenge.org/2018%2004%2018%20Launch%20Challenge%20Guidelines.pdf


Launchers capable of 10kg to 1000kg to an unspecified range of orbits
can take part.  (But payload amount is one among several factors
determining standing in the final round.)

Getting FAA to sign off on launches to be performed at an indeterminate
site is the first round, $400K prizes for all who succeed, and some
DARPA help with FAA implied.

Then the first launch challenge, next year: 30 days notice of the launch
site, an austere pad with details TBD at a present or future
FAA-licensed spaceport.  Then 14 days notice of the payload & orbit. $2m
each for all successful launches.

Then the second launch challenge, for those who succeed in the first:
"Within weeks" move to site #2, where competitors that deliver their
spacecraft to LEO will be ranked by payload mass, time, and accuracy to
receive cash prizes of $10m for first, $9m for 2nd, and $8m for third
place.

DARPA says their idea here is to promote highly operationally flexibile
capabilities.

It jibes with an idea I've shared with (foisted on) various friends in
the smallsat launch business: Come up with a road-mobile (or airmobile
via drive-on heavy airlifters) launch operation that can on short notice
carry everything needed to an austere site in some small number of
standard over-the-road heavy trucks then launch.

I guess we'll find out if any listened (or came up with similar on their
own)(or are a small enough development vector away from this to be
swayed by DARPA's prixe amounts) in the next couple years.

Henry



On 4/18/2018 10:21 PM, Troy Prideaux wrote:
Should generate a bit of excitement and discussion J

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*Sent:* Thursday, 19 April 2018 3:16 PM
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*Subject:* [AR] DARPA responsive launch challenge

http://www.darpalaunchchallenge.org/default.aspx#challenge

Timeline end of 2019, registration in 2018, prereg meeting in LA end
of May.

-george

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