[AR] Re: mixed monoprops (was Re: DARPA responsive launch challenge)

  • From: John Schilling <john.schilling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:12:47 -0700

On 4/22/2018 12:19 PM, Henry Spencer wrote:


Thinking of this, it occurs to me that if you *must* experiment with mixed monoprops, the way to do preliminary tests would be to store the fuel and oxidizer separately on the test stand, and mix them in the plumbing just before they reach the chamber.  (Such "premixing injectors" saw some use in the early days of rocketry, although injector explosions were common enough that the technique went out of fashion.)

This doesn't *eliminate* the possibility of explosions, but at least it limits the amount that can go up at once.  It may not do that entirely effectively if one of the components is itself a monoprop, like nitrous, but it should reduce the hazards some.

If your favorite mix gives reliable, repeatable engine startup and operation without injector explosions -- probably it won't -- *then* you can think about adding a tank in the middle, where you do the mixing (still by remote control, please) before engine start.

Still later would come more-flight-weight systems where the mixing happens at fill time.

Clever idea; it might at least have mitigated the damage on the early ALASA tests.  As is, we filled a small (50 lbm?) run tank shortly before each test.  After the first hot-fire attempt, I still recall Mitch dryly reporting "...we were unable to locate the run tank".

But even in the final operational concept, the plan was to have a support trailer that woulds store nitrous and acetylene separately, then mix them at the ordnance pit either just before or just after the ALASA was mated to the F-15.  And, if necessary, vent and purge in the event of a ground abort - helps that the vapor pressure for both components is well above ambient.

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