[gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements

  • From: Kawal Gucukoglu <kglists@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 09:22:29 +0100

I'm just hoping that Sendero Group can work with the developer of blind square 
in making the Sendero App work better in the lock screen.  I know that Blind 
square does not use Voice Over but there is no reason why Sendero group can't 
make The seeing I App and the RNIB Navigator work more neatly in the lock 
screen If you or anyone else remembers GEO worked flawlessly in the lock screen 
but at the time Windows mobile 6.1 had issues with Code Factory secquences, if 
any of you remember Mobile Speak! Just my opinion. It would be good If the 
Blind Square Developer could help Sendero Group as I like Blind square because 
it works so well in the lock Screen where as RNIB Navigator does not.

Kawal. 

> On 8 Jul 2014, at 06:46 am, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirttimaa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Charles, I think it makes sense to put speech volume and speed to the app 
> configuration. It actually makes sometimes sense to have different setting so 
> user can distinguish between app voice and iOS notifications. 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Charles LaPierre <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> wrote:
>> Apple does not let us find out what your current speech volume or rate is so
>> we picked something that 80% of the people would at least be able to hear
>> and hopefully understand.  Once Apple gives us the tools to find out the
>> current volume and speech rate it will be identical to what you have set.
>> Yet again Apple just not giving us the tools we need to do our job.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Charles LaPierre, CTO Sendero Group
>> Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of technology for the blind
>> 
>> Office Phone: 888-757-6810
>> Email: Charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com
>> General GPS Web: http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bob cavanaugh
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 8:02 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements
>> 
>> One question I have about background operation of Seeing Eye. Is there a way
>> to slow down the background operation voice? It speaks everything fine when
>> I have the app open, but when I leave it running in the background, it
>> speaks a bit faster than the rate I have it set at on my phone.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:56 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements
>> 
>> I think the improvement I would like to see the most is better feedback when
>> the screen is locked. I'm not saying the app should work exactly like nearby
>> explorer on android, but if you have played with that app, or have a chance
>> to check it out, assuming those items are checked, when the screen is off,
>> when you change direction, it speaks it automatically. As you approach a
>> street, the distance to that street is spoken several times as you get
>> closer. Having this kind of feedback in the app would be a big improvement.
>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Michael May <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> > A couple comments on the data topic:
>> >
>> > Calculating route distances is a bit tricky. You can't simply measure
>> > the
>> distance between two points or turns in a route. You have to take into
>> account the curvature of the line between the points. I should think all
>> commercial products do this correctly.
>> >
>> > Map data certainly varies so a route using TomTom could be slightly
>> different than maps using Navteq, now called Here. FYI, Mapquest does not
>> have their own data. They license it first from Navteq and then more
>> recently from TomTom.
>> >
>> > One challenge in evaluating data is that it varies around the country.
>> > It
>> varies from city to rural areas. It varies between residential streets and
>> highways. Just because it is bad in your area, does not mean that it is bad
>> across the country. Map data is similar to wireless phone service. If you
>> travel, national coverage  is important. If you are concerned just with your
>> home town, then the provider that is best locally is important.
>> >
>> > When it comes to POI data, things are even more complicated. TomTom
>> > has
>> their own POIs and they also license premium data from another supplier. Not
>> all vendors license all levels of POI content. Some map programs focus on
>> restaurants and travel POIs and disregard services like plumbers or
>> dentists.
>> >
>> > When we can, we do something few if any map programs does, we offer
>> options so people can pick what works best in their area. This isn't always
>> practical because of data licenses costs and restrictions.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Parisian
>> > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 4:52 PM
>> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements
>> >
>> > Good day Sunshine:
>> >
>> > I wonder if both GPS systems are calculating in the same way?  In
>> determining the distance between two points, there may be a difference
>> between traffic and walking.
>> >
>> > I believe both Google and Seeing Eye GPS have virtual route features
>> though I'll have to double check on that one.  Seems to me I did use Google
>> maps to explore an entire route from home.
>> >
>> > On 07/07/2014 6:17 PM, sunshine wrote:
>> > We were trying to figure out the mileage between my house and The
>> > American
>> Red Cross. The GPS app says 4.1 miles, but with Google, as determined by
>> paratransit, gives an indication that I am 5.7 miles from The American Red
>> Cross. That's quite a difference. Here, any trip under 6 miles is $3.00 and
>> any above, an extra 50 cents. So it looks like the mileage is not accurate.
>> >
>> > Hugs
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: brandon armstrong <baarmstrong37@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2014 6:02 pm
>> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] seeing eye gps improvements
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > hello all, I want to weigh in on what mike may said here.  you love
>> foursquare, my point here, please get google maps in the next version of
>> this app, like we've been asking you to do sense 1.0 and call it a day.  do
>> you know, that we got a bypass here in my location, after the bypass opened,
>> with in two days of that road opening, google maps starts telling me turn
>> right on to state highway 9, where your app and some others keep telling me
>> to continue on to 190.  I'm sorry, but for almost real time updated map info
>> google maps will be your best way to go verses tom tom and map quest.
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>> learn."
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