[gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements

  • From: Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirttimaa@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:57:42 +0300

Actually, I have helped Mike and Sendero on this one. I think Seeing Eye is
able to run on background and continue giving information, but I have never
tried this app. I hope I'm able to test it next week during my visit in UK.


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kglists@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'm just hoping that Sendero Group can work with the developer of blind
> square in making the Sendero App work better in the lock screen.  I know
> that Blind square does not use Voice Over but there is no reason why
> Sendero group can't make The seeing I App and the RNIB Navigator work more
> neatly in the lock screen If you or anyone else remembers GEO worked
> flawlessly in the lock screen but at the time Windows mobile 6.1 had issues
> with Code Factory secquences, if any of you remember Mobile Speak! Just my
> opinion. It would be good If the Blind Square Developer could help Sendero
> Group as I like Blind square because it works so well in the lock Screen
> where as RNIB Navigator does not.
>
> Kawal.
>
> On 8 Jul 2014, at 06:46 am, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirttimaa@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Charles, I think it makes sense to put speech volume and speed to the app
> configuration. It actually makes sometimes sense to have different setting
> so user can distinguish between app voice and iOS notifications.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Charles LaPierre <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>
>> Apple does not let us find out what your current speech volume or rate is
>> so
>> we picked something that 80% of the people would at least be able to hear
>> and hopefully understand.  Once Apple gives us the tools to find out the
>> current volume and speech rate it will be identical to what you have set.
>> Yet again Apple just not giving us the tools we need to do our job.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Charles LaPierre, CTO Sendero Group
>> Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of technology for the blind
>>
>> Office Phone: 888-757-6810
>> Email: Charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com
>> General GPS Web: http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bob cavanaugh
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 8:02 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements
>>
>> One question I have about background operation of Seeing Eye. Is there a
>> way
>> to slow down the background operation voice? It speaks everything fine
>> when
>> I have the app open, but when I leave it running in the background, it
>> speaks a bit faster than the rate I have it set at on my phone.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:56 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements
>>
>> I think the improvement I would like to see the most is better feedback
>> when
>> the screen is locked. I'm not saying the app should work exactly like
>> nearby
>> explorer on android, but if you have played with that app, or have a
>> chance
>> to check it out, assuming those items are checked, when the screen is off,
>> when you change direction, it speaks it automatically. As you approach a
>> street, the distance to that street is spoken several times as you get
>> closer. Having this kind of feedback in the app would be a big
>> improvement.
>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Michael May <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > A couple comments on the data topic:
>> >
>> > Calculating route distances is a bit tricky. You can't simply measure
>> > the
>> distance between two points or turns in a route. You have to take into
>> account the curvature of the line between the points. I should think all
>> commercial products do this correctly.
>> >
>> > Map data certainly varies so a route using TomTom could be slightly
>> different than maps using Navteq, now called Here. FYI, Mapquest does not
>> have their own data. They license it first from Navteq and then more
>> recently from TomTom.
>> >
>> > One challenge in evaluating data is that it varies around the country.
>> > It
>> varies from city to rural areas. It varies between residential streets and
>> highways. Just because it is bad in your area, does not mean that it is
>> bad
>> across the country. Map data is similar to wireless phone service. If you
>> travel, national coverage  is important. If you are concerned just with
>> your
>> home town, then the provider that is best locally is important.
>> >
>> > When it comes to POI data, things are even more complicated. TomTom
>> > has
>> their own POIs and they also license premium data from another supplier.
>> Not
>> all vendors license all levels of POI content. Some map programs focus on
>> restaurants and travel POIs and disregard services like plumbers or
>> dentists.
>> >
>> > When we can, we do something few if any map programs does, we offer
>> options so people can pick what works best in their area. This isn't
>> always
>> practical because of data licenses costs and restrictions.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Parisian
>> > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 4:52 PM
>> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements
>> >
>> > Good day Sunshine:
>> >
>> > I wonder if both GPS systems are calculating in the same way?  In
>> determining the distance between two points, there may be a difference
>> between traffic and walking.
>> >
>> > I believe both Google and Seeing Eye GPS have virtual route features
>> though I'll have to double check on that one.  Seems to me I did use
>> Google
>> maps to explore an entire route from home.
>> >
>> > On 07/07/2014 6:17 PM, sunshine wrote:
>> > We were trying to figure out the mileage between my house and The
>> > American
>> Red Cross. The GPS app says 4.1 miles, but with Google, as determined by
>> paratransit, gives an indication that I am 5.7 miles from The American Red
>> Cross. That's quite a difference. Here, any trip under 6 miles is $3.00
>> and
>> any above, an extra 50 cents. So it looks like the mileage is not
>> accurate.
>> >
>> > Hugs
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: brandon armstrong <baarmstrong37@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2014 6:02 pm
>> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] seeing eye gps improvements
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > hello all, I want to weigh in on what mike may said here.  you love
>> foursquare, my point here, please get google maps in the next version of
>> this app, like we've been asking you to do sense 1.0 and call it a day.
>>  do
>> you know, that we got a bypass here in my location, after the bypass
>> opened,
>> with in two days of that road opening, google maps starts telling me turn
>> right on to state highway 9, where your app and some others keep telling
>> me
>> to continue on to 190.  I'm sorry, but for almost real time updated map
>> info
>> google maps will be your best way to go verses tom tom and map quest.
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>> > Sunshine and Ivanna, my cute little labradorable, the mischief maker
>> > in a
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>> >
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>> >
>> > "Tell me and I forget teach me and I may remember, involve me and I
>> learn."
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