oooooh! great call! I never thought of that! We can't call you Mr trouble1 though, now can we. hahha. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 2:28 AM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button > That would mean that firefox has something > unblocked therefor able to use the button. IE has > lots of security that firefox doesn't. So I would > be looking in the security tab menu in IE and > find what is turned off or blocked. I do know > that a lot of java, java script and active x are disabled. > > At 10:33 AM 11/1/2013, you wrote: >>Hi Geoff, >> >>No that's not quite right. >> >>I can easily activate the button in Firefox, but my problem is that >>Firefox >>routinely crashes 4 or more times per day and when it goes it often locks >>up >>my laptop, which requires a forced shutdown since JAWS speech is also >>lost. >> >>I use IE10 for most of my interaction with my company's webpages with the >>exception of the one component of their system where I need to use >>Firefox. >>I have exhausted all of the Firefox suggestions to prevent crashes, but it >>still keeps on crashing. >> >>On my particular computer, with JAWS turned off, my wife was not able to >>activate the problematic 'save' button when using IE10 with the mouse pad. >>Supposedly the set of webpages I am using was optimized for IE, and other >>people in the company are able to activate the 'save' button for the page >>with IE. >> >>I have tried activating the button with the Spacebar, LeftMouse, >>LeftMouseLock/Unlock, and EnterKey. I have tested this with the >>VirtualCursor, JAWSCursor, InvisibleCursor, and now with Auto Forms Mode >>turned on and off, and with the VirtualCursor turned off. I have tried >>tethering the JAWSCursor to the PCCursor and using various sequences for >>routing cursors. >> >>I am beginning to suspect that it is somehow a problem with my specific >>laptop, but I don't have any ideas about how to solve the problem at that >>level. >> >>I find that Firefox tends to not crash when it is freshly activated. It >>usually does so after a couple hours of use. I have been starting to >>periodically close all the Firefox windows and reload the program with the >>hope of preventing a crash. Most of the time when Firefox crashes, I am >>simply typing in an edit field. >> >>John >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman >>Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 9:49 AM >>To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >>Ok, Thanks John for the response. >> >>But, let me get this totally straight. >>Are you saying, that your major problem here, is not being able to >>click/activate, a single but imperitive save button on a given app in a >>Web >>environment? >>No matter what you do, or what browser you try? Is this correct? >> >>But, that when jaws is not loaded, that you can successfully tab to it and >>activate it with SpaceBar then? >> >>But that when jaws is loaded, and you turn virtual cursor off, that the >>same >>actions of tabbing and hitting SpaceBar, no longer will activate the >>button? >>Is that right? >> >>That seems incredible if so! >> >>And Additionally, just refresh us, if you get the physical mouse on the >>button, and you click the physical mouse button, whilst jaws is loaded, >>does >>the button activate? >>I remember you saying that no keyboard mouse emulation clicks, either >>NumPad >>Slash, nor a doubleClick of JawsKey+NumPadSlash, would activate it whilst >>the mouse pointer is *definitely* (visually confirmed,) over the button. >>is >>that right too? >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "John P. Thomas" <johnt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:02 AM >>Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >> >> > Hi Geoff, >> > >> > I had long forgotten INSERT+Z. I keep 'Auto Forms Mode' turned off >> > because >> > it interferes with my scripts, which often crawl over several edit >> > fields >> > to >> > get to where I need to go. I did the experiments that you suggested >> > with >> > turning off the virtual cursor and tabbing to the 'save' button, but >> > nothing >> > changed. I also played with using the JAWSCursor and InvisibleCursor >> > with >> > the VertualCursor off, but it didn't help the situation. It was a good >> > idea. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > John >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman >> > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:20 AM >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> > >> > John, just a total far out long shot thought, but have you tried >> > experimenting with this horrid page, when turning virtual cursor off >> > totally? >> > with Jaws+Zed? >> > >> > particularly where you've got issues of jaws seeming like it's not >> > recognizing an edit field, either manually or automatically (I presume >> > you've also tried setting forms mode to manual as well rather than >> > relying >> > on it's auto-detection algorithm that's been on by default now for some >> > versions, though I always turn it off and go back to the old manual >> > setting >> > myself.) >> > and seeing, for example, whether jaws then happily reads the text in >> > the >> > edit field with arrows when virtual cursor is off permanently I don't >> > know >> > how iTunes is done, but it's got this wierd mix of virtual pc being >> > active, >> > and then places where without telling you it's found a forms mode field >> > with >> > that auto detection stuff sound thing, so it doesn't know etc, when you >> > flip >> > virtual PC cursor off with jaws+Zed, then tab to them you can fill them >> > in. >> > else, it just thinks virtual cursor is still active, and doesn't even >> > except >> > text input, because it's not recognizing there's a forms mode field >> > there >> > to, allow, it to switch into? >> > anyways just wondered if you'd messed with that idea yet. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "John P. Thomas" <johnt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 11:48 PM >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> > >> > >> >>I also installed JAWS 15 to see if it could activate the 'save' button >> >>that >> >> has been so problematic. This didn't help. >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John P. Thomas >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:34 AM >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >> >> >> Someone also mentioned giving Google Chrome a try. There is good news >> >> and >> >> bad. The good news is, I was able to click the 'save' button with >> >> chrome. >> >> The bad news is that JAWS can't see any of the text in the edit fields >> >> of >> >> the specific webpages that I need to use when forms mode is activated, >> >> and >> >> the cursor keys are unable to move the cursor within the fields. So, >> >> this >> >> doesn't look promising. >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John P. Thomas >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:21 AM >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> I removed JAVA 6 and installed the latest JAVA version 7.X and >> >> activated >> >> the >> >> accessible bridge. Unfortunately this didn't change the situation. Any >> >> other >> >> thoughts? >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble >> >> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:40 PM >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >> >> >> If you have the latest version of java. You will find a check box for >> >> it >> >> in >> >> the start menu, programs, accessories, ease of access center. >> >> Just tab to use computer without a display. >> >> >> >> At 03:58 PM 10/28/2013, you wrote: >> >>>Hi >> >>> >> >>>accessible bridge? I didn't find that in the list of add-ons. Should >> >>>it >> >>>show up there or somewhere else? I did a quick Google search, but >> >>>didn't find any helpful information. Is this something that needs to >> >>>be >> >> installed? >> >>> >> >>>Thanks >> >>>John >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >> >>>From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trouble >> >>>Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 11:10 AM >> >>>To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >>> >> >>>I know you stated you turned java back on but did you enable the >> >>>accessible bridge also? Without that enabled it still could be a jaws >> >>>problem not actually seeing a physical button but reporting that there >> >>>is one. Like having a piece of glass between you and it . You can see >> >>>it but not touch it. You also stated something about downloads. >> >>>For any info there do a control + j. It runs them in background sense >> >>>version 9. >> >>> >> >>>At 10:08 AM 10/28/2013, you wrote: >> >>> >I am using IE10. I haven't tried Google chrome, because other people >> >>> >in the company have reported that it has problems with this web >> >>> >application. But maybe I should try it myself. >> >>> > >> >>> >John >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >-----Original Message----- >> >>> >From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> >[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Martyn >> >>> >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:22 AM >> >>> >To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >>> > >> >>> >What version of IE are you using? IE can behave weird in a lot of >> >>> >instances that Firefox doesn't. Have you tried google chrome? >> >>> >John >> >>> > >> >>> >-----Original Message----- >> >>> >From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> >[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John P. >> >>> >Thomas >> >>> >Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:56 PM >> >>> >To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >>> > >> >>> >Hi >> >>> > >> >>> >I appreciate the suggestions. I need to clarify my previous post and >> >>> >add some new information. >> >>> > >> >>> >First, the â?~saveâ?T button is fully visible to JAWS 14. I can move >> >>> >the JAWSCursor, InvisibleCursor and the VertualCursor to the button. >> >>> >I can check the coordinates of the JAWSCursor and the >> >>> >InvisibleCursor >> >>> >for the â?~saveâ?T button, and they are the same. I have my wife >> >>> >manually move the mouse to the â?~saveâ?T button and JAWS reported >> >>> >the exact same cursor location. >> >>> > >> >>> >I have tried activating the button with the Enter Key, LeftMouse >> >>> >button on the numpad, the Left MouseLock button, and the Spacebar, >> >>> >but none of these will activate the button. I also had my wife try >> >>> >to >> >>> >activate the button with JAWS loaded and without JAWS loaded, but it >> >>> >will not respond on my laptop. Everyone else in my company is using >> >>> >IE and is able to click the â?~saveâ?T button, so it is beginning to >> >>> >sound like it is something about my computer that is causing the >> >>> >problem. >> >>> > >> >>> >I did reactivate JAVA, which I had turned off when I disabled all my >> >>> >tool bars and add-ins to see if they were causing this problem, but >> >>> >JAVA restoration didnâ?Tt help. >> >>> > >> >>> >As I mentioned in my previous post, I am able to activate the >> >>> >â?~saveâ?T button in Firefox. The problem is that Firefox routinely >> >>> >crashes multiple times during the day, and I need to use IE. I am >> >>> >using >> >>> >IE10 in Windows 7. I am able to activate buttons on other webpages >> >>> >in >> >>> >IE10 normally. >> >>> > >> >>> >Here is some additional information that might be of use. >> >>> > >> >>> >Flexible Web is Enabled (I donâ?Tt know what this means) If >> >>> >IsFlexibleWebEnabled () Then SayString ("flex enabled") Else >> >>> >sayString ("not flex enabled") EndIf >> >>> > >> >>> >MSAA is being used. (I donâ?Tt know anything about MSAA) If >> >>> >IsMSAAWindow (GetFocus()) then SayString ("MSAA in use ") else >> >>> >saystring ("not MSAA") EndIf >> >>> > >> >>> >The window where the â?~saveâ?T button is located is not obscured. >> >>> >If IsWindowObscured (GetFocus()) then SayString ("window is >> >>> >obscured") else SayString ("window not obscured") EndIf >> >>> > >> >>> >When the JAWSCursor or InvisibleCursor are used, and they point to >> >>> >the â?~saveâ?T button, the button shows that it is contained within >> >>> >the active window. When the VertualCursor is used, then the same >> >>> >test >> >>> >reports that the location of the VertualCursor is not in the active >> >>> >window. >> >>> >If IsPointInWindow (ThePCCursorWindowHandle, GetCursorCol(), >> >>> >GetCursorRow ()) == true then SayString ("true this point is in the >> >>> >active window ") Else SayString ("false the point is not in the >> >>> >active >> >>> >window") EndIf >> >>> > >> >>> >I donâ?Tt know how relevant the following information is, but here >> >>> >it >> >>> >is for interest. >> >>> >The X-Y coordinates for the button when the VertualCursor is active >> >>> >is: >> >>> >1, 115 The X-Y coordinates for the button when either the JAWSCursor >> >>> >or the InvisibleCursor is used is: 500, 555 >> >>> > >> >>> >There is one other problem that might be somehow related. I find >> >>> >that >> >>> >JAWS stopped tracking the standard windows download file notices >> >>> >sometimes last winter. In other words when I download a file from >> >>> >the >> >>> >internet and the box pops up to ask if I want to save or run the >> >>> >program, JAWS no longer automatically finds this box. This problem >> >>> >happens for me now in JAWS 13 and 14. It used to work fine in JAWS >> >>> >13. >> >>> >I only mention this, because it is a strange change that did not >> >>> >happen in relationship to a JAWS update. >> >>> > >> >>> >If you have any other questions or suggestions, please pass them >> >>> >along. >> >>> > >> >>> >Thanks, >> >>> >John >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >-----Original Message----- >> >>> >From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> >[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The dark >> >>> >count >> >>> >Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:59 PM >> >>> >To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Alternative methods for clicking a button >> >>> > >> >>> >Make sure Jaba script is enabled in ie. if not. >> >>> >Buttons or some links don't show up when switched off. >> >>> > >> >>> >D C >> >>> > >> >>> >On 10/19/2013 3:31 PM, John P. Thomas wrote: >> >>> > > Hi >> >>> > > >> >>> > > I have a button on a web page in Internet >> >>> > Explorer 10 running under WIN7 that I am unable to activate. I can >> >>> > click the button without any problem when I use Firefox, but in IE >> >>> > I >> >>> > cannot activate it with either a LeftMouseClick >> >>> > (insert+slash) or with the enter key. I tried routing the >> >>> > JAWSCursor >> >>> > and the InvisibleCursor, and I have tried tethering the JAWSCursor >> >>> > to follow the VertualCursor, but I can't activate the 'Save' button >> >>> > on this web based data form. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > I have been using Firefox with this >> >>> > particular web application for my work situation, but I really need >> >>> > to switch to IE10. >> >>> > Firefox crashes 2 to 3 times a day, which is a real problem, since >> >>> > it often locks up my laptop when it crashes and requires a forced >> >>> > shutdown. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > What other approaches could I use to get JAWS >> >>> > 14 to activate an uncooperative button. By the way, all other >> >>> > buttons on the page work fine in either IE10 or Firefox. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Thanks, >> >>> > > John >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim >> >>> > > Snowbarger >> >>> > > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:35 PM >> >>> > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Virtual Viewer Help >> >>> > > >> >>> > > One of the parameters to UserBufferAddText is the name of a >> >>> > > function that will be executed if you press enter on >> >>> > the line of text you are adding. >> >>> > > Supplying that parameter makes it a link. And, I think you also >> >>> > > need to supply another parameter which is the name of the link to >> >>> > > be used if anybody presses jawsKey+f7 while in your buffer. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> > > From: "Bob" <temp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> > > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 3:10 AM >> >>> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Virtual Viewer Help >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Yeah, didnâ?Tt make any difference. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > What I found was UserBufferAddText ignores the %KeyFor In the end >> >>> > > the only way I could get it to work as I wanted was to do >> >>> > > something >> >>>like: >> >>> > > SayFormattedMessage(OT_USER_BUFFER, >> >>> > > FormatStringWithEmbeddedFunctions(Message)) >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Then the message just consisted of a function call like >> >>> > > <GenerateLink> >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Then I had a function GenerateLink() that returned the line >> >>> > > %KeyFor(CustomClickAtPoint(GlobalVar1, GlobalVar2, GlobalVar3)) >> >>> > > >> >>> > > A pain in the proverbial but did the trick. >> >>> > > I used my own click at point script so that I didnâ?Tt have to >> >>> > > add >> >>> > > a keystroke to the script so the %KeyFor wasnâ?Tt adding unwanted >> >>> > > text to my output. Also I needed some extra custom >> >>> > handling for some special circumstances. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > So I got there in the end but I wouldnâ?Tt have had a clue >> >>> > > without >> >>> > > your help so big thanks John. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John >> >>> > > Martyn >> >>> > > Sent: 18 October 2013 03:53 >> >>> > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Virtual Viewer Help >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Did you clear the user buffer before adding? >> >>> > > John >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob >> >>> > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:01 AM >> >>> > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Virtual Viewer Help >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Thanks John >> >>> > > I have found that UserBufferAddText doesnt replace the % in the >> >>> > > way that SayFormattedMessage does. >> >>> > > Also had some fun trying to drop parameters into the function as >> >>> > > well so I could use the following: >> >>> > > %KeyFor(ClickAtPoint(iColumn, iRow, Coordsys_Pixels)) >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Ended up using global variables and bouncing the message through >> >>> > > FormatStringWithEmbeddedFunctions >> >>> > > >> >>> > > I am getting fed up of this application! >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > On 17/10/2013 14:09, John Martyn wrote: >> >>> > >> The %keyFor() function must tie to the exact script name in the >> >>> > >> parenthesis. You have to place this line inside a variable and >> >>> > >> if >> >>> > >> in a message file JSM, you need the messages and endMessages at >> >>> > >> the top and bottom. Make sure that the percent sign >> >>> > isn't right up against the words. >> >>> > >> John >> >>> > >> John >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> > >> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > >> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob >> >>> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:50 AM >> >>> > >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Virtual Viewer Help >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> Thanks John >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> I still dont seem to be getting this working properly. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> I have added the message exactly as you had it to my messages >> >>> > >> section in my header file. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> When I do UserBufferAddText and then UserBufferActivate it just >> >>> > >> appears as plain text. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> What am I doing wrong? >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> Bob >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >>> On 16 Oct 2013, at 23:08, John Martyn >> >>> > >>> <johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx> >> >>>wrote: >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> Yes, use this: >> >>> > >>> @navigationKeys Navigation Keys >> >>> > >>> Go to Home Page %KeyFor (HomePage) @@ The key for is the name >> >>> > >>> of >> >>> > >>> the script that is activated using a link style navigation. >> >>> > >>> John Martyn >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> > >>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > >>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob >> >>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:35 AM >> >>> > >>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> > >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Virtual Viewer Help >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> I have an application that has nearly no keyboard navigation. >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> I am hoping to be able to scrape the useful information off >> >>> > >>> each >> >>> > >>> screen and use the virtual viewer to display this. >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> Once this is running I would like to add links to the >> >>> > >>> information displayed so that the user can input additional >> >>> > >>> information where required. >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> Is it possible to add a link or a button or anything to the >> >>> > >>> virtual viewer output that will allow me to close the viewer >> >>> > >>> and >> >>> > >>> trigger a different function in my jaws scripts when it is >> >>> > >>> pressed? 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