Manfredi, Albert E wrote: >John Shutt wrote: > > > >>As it turned out, the problems weren't so easily >>fixed, and we probably would have been further ahead >>in the transition if the Sinclair petition were >>adopted back in 1999-2000. >> >> > >You may be right, but "as it turns out," the fix was in fact devised >several years ago, and for whatever set of reasons, it's still not >available on store shelves *in OTA-only boxes*. > > What fix? The closest thing to a fix was the 5th gen prototype and it was marginal with NO possibility of mobile and iffy portable. There was and is NO fix for 8-VSB. There is however a NEW rumor of a fix for 8-VSB as usual 2-4 years out. Bob Miller >Where are the 4th gen Micronas OTA STBs, PVRs, and DVDRs? > >Where are the 5th gen LG OTA STBs, PVRs, and DVDRs? (They continue to >offer quite happily only 3rd gen devices or OTA.) > >Where are the STMicroelectronics OTA STBs, PVRs, and DVDRs? > >Where are the Samsung Gemini chip OTA STBs, PVRs, and DVDRs? > >Where is the outrage from broadcasters that these products are being >held in some secret vault? > > I believe this has been correctly explained to you a hundred times. You just don't get it. >As to "the rest of the world," we have seen at least two obvious >examples of solutions that are global. And clearly, as long as demods >are still provided as separate chips, this will be the case for >virtually *any* DTT product out there. Offer something in DVB-T, you can >offer the same box in ATSC. So that old song just doesn't ring true >anymore. > > IF ONLY any of this were true!!! I wish. >To an outsider like me, this sounds like excuses for doing nothing. To >an outsider like me, mention of DVB-T is a smokescreen. I'm not even >saying that in many scenarios, DVB-T wouldn't be "better." It very >likely could be. I'm simply saying that we have ATSC, we have "miracle >chips" that finally work, so why aren't broadcasters at very least >pushing to get these improved products out to the public? You can keep >harping about DVB-T at the same time. > > Miracle only in the context of former 8-VSB chips not in anything like state of the art. Bob Miller >Bert > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.