Can't disagree with much of your argument. The point that I am trying to make is that if a broadcast standard cannot do mobile or portable reliably and the same content can be reliably and economically delivered by other means to fixed locations there is no obvious reason to continue devoting spectrum to broadcast services or at least scaling down the use of spectrum. This would be my take on the viability of broadcast DTV in North America. But... My belief is that there are wide swaths of that huge country of Brazil that are impoverished and have no access to cable or cannot afford internet or satellite. In such situations there are more compelling reasons to avoid ATSC for another standard that is reliable. The same applies to a fixed receiver of which there would be many still in use. Can you image families in the slums of Rio and Sao Paulo not being able watch their Novellas and football for free (their one source of a dream of a better and more prosperous future) without having to buy an STB converter and external antenna. And if a loan is given to jump start DTV with subsidized STBs that work well with indoor rabbit ear antennas is that not more reason to go that route? Anyone out there have the info on the percentage of OTA TV viewers in Brazil ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Digital TV: Brazil to Adopt Anything But the American System > Nick Kocsis wrote: > >> Portability and mobility trumps any amount of money if >> the goal is to use spectrum in a manner that serves the >> public and not the politicians that get all those >> juicy trips and dinners paid for by the lobbyists. > > I guess my point was that it seemed fairly clear that the issues were > NOT entirely technical. There were apparently other considerations > there, including possible development work done in country as a result > of the choice. This is entirely commonplace in this sort of negotiation. > Not to mention the 300M Euro loan, which I doubt the ATSC so far has > matched (but I don't know this for a fact). > > The technical tradeoffs are debatable ad nauseam. Brazil is a > geographically enormous country. Certainly, anyone with the guts to do a > long range reception comparison test between the three standards could > make the case that a scheme optimized for long range, at equal bandwidth > and power, would be beneficial to such a huge country. Just a point to > consider, among many. > > Obviously, choosing a COFDM scheme would not be a mistake. However, I > don't think the mea culpa attitude about all related to ATSC or the US > govt is valid either. The price of ATSC boxes, being HD especially, is > simply not going to be a valid argument anymore. The cost/price > differential is inconsequential. > > Bert > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.