[opendtv] Re: Interesting Point

  • From: John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:41:18 +0100 (GMT+01:00)

he delusion continues.

ATSC's legal position is as the adopted standard for the United States.  Do you 
disagree or just don't understand what that means?  (It's like selling PAL sets 
in Maine.)

If DVB-H includes DVB-T, I don't really care, since nobody with any content 
that I am interested in, at least within 1000 miles of my home, is now, or will 
in the forseable future, offers a usable DVB service.

I say this despite the fact that as of a few days ago, Qualcomm's Media Flo was 
available in San Diego, on Channel 53 (we have a DTV station on channeol 55 for 
the moment.)

Media flo IS NOT BROADCASTING.  I have yet to hear of a single proposal to 
offer broadcasting services on any channel above 51, and I doubt that you have 
heard such things in reality./

Since you are sub-par as to terminology (MPEG-2 technology going down the 
tubes?), let me provide you with the definition of broadcasting: a point to 
multipoint one-way wireless transmission system, providing unencrypted signals 
designed for reception by the general public.

Media flo is not one way, provides encrypted communications, which are not 
designed for reception by the general public, but the people who have paid a 
fee to somebody for access.

So, your prediction is a non-starter.  Nobody interested in transmitting for 
free in the clear has even thought of using channels above 51, nor has any such 
entity or person given much of a thought of using DVB, given ATSC's legal 
position.

John Willkie

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Miller <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Oct 25, 2005 8:32 PM
To: JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [OpenDTV] Interesting Point

Inclusion of DVB-H by definition includes DVB-T.

What legal position of ATSC? They have none on channels above 51 as 
Qualcomm is proving by deployment of COFDM on 55. As I have been 
predicting for many years ALL channels from 51 through 59 will be used 
for broadcasting even if some of the current owners of this spectrum do 
not know it yet. And they will ALL use a version of COFDM.

And as channels 52 and below realize what the competition is doing with 
DVB-T and H they will clamor for the ability to compete.

Maybe that clamoring will come as the last moments of NTSC approach and 
the broadcasters employ their last tool of delay, the poor reception of 
mandated receivers, to hold off the inevitable. Congress could throw 
them the bone of allowing COFDM if they just shut up. The evidence 
worldwide of the superiority of COFDM will be very apparent by then as 
it well may be right here in the US. The scramble to buy the remaining 
channels in the lower 700 MHz spectrum and the plans of the would be 
winners will also stimulate interest by broadcasters in actually being 
able to use their OTA spectrum to compete in this new market.

Having every laptop capable of receiving DVB-T/H will be just another 
incentive. Unless of course 8-VSB improves so much that manufacturers 
also include ATSC receivers in every laptop. LOL falling on the floor 
LOL, having a spasm, someone call 911!!!

Bob Miller

John Willkie wrote:

>I've been somewha skeptical of DVB adoption/depoyment in the US due to the 
>legal position of ATSC.
>
>Here's an interesting new wrinkle I learned of yesterday from a friend in the 
>hardware end of this business.   All the major manufactrers of laptop 
>motherboards have decided to include DVB-H receivers onboard.  
>
>The network effects can be stunning from this.  It could also shed somelight 
>on why certain manufacturers of advanced ATSC chips have changed plans to 
>offer free-standing stbs.
>
>John Willkie  
>


 
 
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