[opendtv] Re: Optimizing the system
- From: "Tom McMahon" <TLM@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:43:15 -0800
Next-gen high definition blue laser movie DVDs are going to be 1080/24P both
for marketing-bogosity numerical superiority reasons
and also for real potential quality benefits. I think this is a done deal and
is not worth talking about much more. There will be
few if any 720/24P blue laser movie titles.
The basic tenet is that whatever movie content is on these DVDs must be better
in all respects to what a consumer can obtain today
or tomorrow over terrestrial, cable or satellite connections. It must be both
bogosity-superior and actually demonstrably superior.
I don't think that's wrong.
I've seen many of the H.264/AVC tests, and I do believe that in the sub-20Mbit
range they can deliver 1080/24P on a disk that which
most consumers have never seen before and that which most displays will not be
able to do justice to for many many years to come.
That's the goal - future proof. And it fits in the runtime, with bonus
material, etc etc etc.
As much as I like 720/N P for live broadcast applications, and I applaud Fox
and ABC and ESPN for doing what they've done, I don't
think you'll see much if any movie content authored that way on blue laser
disks.
The delicate matter in all of the above, of course, is making sure that the
1920 by 1080 content on the blue laser disk is just shy
of what you can expect in terms of a D-Cinema experience in the theatre. Lord
knows you wouldn't want to eat into box office
revenues with blue laser product that was so good in home theatres that it kept
people from going out at night.... This is one
reason why "D-Cinema" has been defined to be 2048 by 1080 - just a notch above
"HD". And now we see that "D-Cinema" is being
rigidly defined to be 4096 by 2160, even though we know that that there is no
real information out there in the high frequency band.
Talk about bogosity.....
-----Original Message-----
From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert E
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:45 PM
To: OpenDTV (E-mail)
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Optimizing the system
Michael Hazarian wrote:
[Recording material in HD-DVDs as 1080 versions of HD]
> Would it reduce future sales of "new and improved, Super HD-DVD"
> versions of the same media that consumers have already purchased? YES!
Excellent point! Maybe that's the logic behind Craig's seemingly
incomprehensible stand. Finally something that makes sense.
Let's provide the smallest possible improvement with HD-DVDs, just so we can
soak consumers with a complete redo of their
yet-to-begin HD-DVD library in the shortest amount of time. It's called planned
obsolescence.
So it's nothing to do with "economics" of the consumer.
It's "economics" of the media moguls he's fussing about.
Oooooooh. Who knew? Boy, was I off base.
Of course, this plays against the economics of the CE manufacturers, who would
have a much easier time selling their upcoming
over-60" sets if consumers were already equipped with 1080-line software.
Bert
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