John Golitsis wrote: >The question is, of those 64 models you note, how many are non- >current? It's not uncommon for a manufacturer to "carry over" a >model from a previous model year. > Here is a list of 36-inch and larger models said to have NTSC tuners but no ATSC reception, from October's CEA HDTV Guide (AFTER the 100% mandate kicked in): Acoustic Research AR4200 Akai PDP4295ED Akai PT46DL20 Akai PT46DLX30 Akai LCT3715 Akai LCT3716 Akai LCT4216 Akira HLT-300W Akira PK-4201 Albatron PWV-46MCB-1 AOC A42W64 Audiovox FPE3705 Bang & OLufsen BeoVision 5 BenQ DV3750 BenQ DV4680 BenQ PDP46W1-S Champion 42CVI Dell W4200ED EnCross Kreisen KR-370T EnCross Kreisen KR-400T Hitachi 37HDL52 Hitachi 42HDF52 Hitachi 42HDS52 Hitachi 55HDS52 Hitachi 42HDT52 Hitachi 55HDT52 Hitachi 42HDX62 Hitachi 55HDX62 HP PE4240N HP PL4245N Hyundai DPD4210 JVC PD-42V485 Jwin JV-DTV37 MAXX 4000 MAXX 4260 MAXX 5000 MAXX 6300 Nakamichi VU50P NetTV PDP-50X NetTV PDP-42X7 Nikada PD1422 Nikada PD1501 Norcent PT-4233 Norcent PT-4235 Panasonic TH-42XVS30U Panasonic TH-50XVS30U Panasonic TH-65XVS30U Planar PD42ED Proton PLTV-37 SOYO DYLT037A SVA HD4208TIII-PDP VR SVA HD4208UII http://www.ce.org/PDF/HDTVGuideFall05.pdf The other fall charts no longer seem to be available on the CEA site because they've been updated. The updated charts have MUCH fewer listed violations. Here's what I've found: AOC A42W64AT4 BenQ DV3750 Dell W4200ED Panasonic TH-42XVS30U Panasonic TH-50XVS30U Panasonic TH-65XVS30U http://www.ce.org/PDF/hdtvguidewinter06.pdf So the situation certainly seems to be improving greatly. But note that the AOC number is different from that in the previous list, suggesting that it is a new model. >I don't believe models like this >would be in violation of the mandate, but I don't recall the exact >wording. > > Here is the exact wording (47 C.F.R. 15.117 i 1): "Responsible parties, as defined in Section 2.909 of this chapter, are required to equip new TV broadcast receivers that are shipped in interstate commerce or imported from any foreign country into the United States and for which they are responsible to comply with the provisions of this section in accordance with the following schedule:" Paragraph h, above that, says "TV broadcast receivers are required to provide useable picture and sound commensurate with their video anbd audio capabilities when receiving digital television signals." http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules/part15/part15-91905.pdf So whether models are old or not makes no difference. My reading of the law is that, if the set is not used and is shipped interstate, the mandate applies. I defer to any lawyers on the forum. TTFN, Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.