Russ I can agree with stopping back 2 ft. and then bring the train 6-8" forward
for the next child. I think that's a good plan to do.MelSent from my LG V30, an
AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone------ Original message------From: Russ
BellinisDate: Fri, Jul 17, 2020 1:42 AMTo: ourocmr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;Cc:
Subject:[ourocmr] Re: KRT PolicyI would take issue with # 8. As often as not
when I'm trying to help kids run trains, they turn the throttle the wrong way
when I'm trying to get them to stop! It is much easier to get the child to
stop the train 2 feet back giving me time to make corrections if they turn the
speed up instead of stopping. Once the train is stopped, it is then easier for
the member to bring it up to within 3-6 inches.RussOn Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:16
PM Carl Heimberger <cjheimberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:RussShould have no effect we
have had junior members in the club with grand parents as sponsors. The KRT
policy is to keep our exposure minimal from the general
public.CarlSent from my iPadOn Jul 15, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Russ Bellinis
<russbellinis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:What effect would this have on our category of
"Junior Members"? My grandson Aidan is the only one of my grandkids that is
interested in trains. He is 9 but when he has run trains with us he acts like
he is 9 going on 30. When he is 12 I would like to see if he would be
interested in being a Jr. Member and come to shows with me to help with set up
and run trains.RussOn Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:45 AM Carl Heimberger
<cjheimberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:RussWe cannot protect the world, there are a lot
of bad people out there. The question is what is out liability and it may just
mean we no longer do KRT.CarlSent from my iPadOn Jul 15, 2020, at 11:39 AM,
Russ Bellinis <russbellinis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I would also add that "parents or
guardians" does not protect kids from abusive parents which is probably almost
as bad a situation as the Boy Scout problem.RussOn Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at
11:36
AM Russ Bellinis <russbellinis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Carl,Parent or Guardian
eliminates Grandparents, Aunts or Uncles, or even adult siblings. I have often
brought my grandson to train shows and supervised while he ran trains. I would
not be able to do that if supervision is restricted to parents or
guardians.RussOn Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:02 AM Annette Palmer
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
attached is the actual NMRA at rick person policy pulled from the
website. It shows Legal Guardian and not responsible adult. this policy only
applies to NMRA events and not our other shows, so we did not need a sign for
the train shows, home shows, Thomas days, etc, only events that are NMRA
sponsored.<1594835681775blob.jpg>The following are the items I do not agree
with on the new KRT policyitem 4 on the procedures shows this "In
addition, a Responsible Adult (defined below) of the child must also sign the
sheet next to their child’s name. " this should be stated as parent or legal
guardian at a NMRA sponsored event and would require the affidavit, I do not
want to have to have parent or guardian sign paper to have the child run. 1.
The following rules must be followed at all times:
a. Child must
be accompanied by a Responsible Adult at all times -this should be stated as
parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.
b. Child must
wear the lanyard holding the throttle around their neck at all times.-this
should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.
c. The child must
have the Responsible Adult’s
help if they are not tall enough to see the trains. -this should be stated as
parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.d. The club
member should walk with the child and be
on the outside of the layout with child and Responsible Adult. At no time
should the child and parent be
allowed inside the layout.--this should state the club member must walk with
the child, as I stated in my original emails, the member
will hand the control to someone and then go and sit down and not watch what
is happening, this has lead to a lot of derailments and collisions. This has
caused damage to peoples trains and the club does not pay for the repairs for
this happening.7. Members who are conducting a child
and Responsible Adult around the layout are to give them their full attention
and not stop and talk to others until they are done with the child.this should
be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.8. Trains
should stop at least 24” (inches) behind a
stationary train to prevent collisions and to provide an adequate space to stop
train in case child cannot stop in time.- 2 feet is a long way to stop and try
to keep things moving, we usually have them stop 3 to 6 inches from train ahead
of them. If the member is walking with the child then this should not be an
issue.Note: For NMRA sponsored events, their rules require that the
Responsible Adult must be a Parent (no exceptions).
NMRA states must be parent or legal guardian with a notarized form.Annette
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:04:41 AM PDT, Carl
Heimberger <cjheimberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To the OCMR BODI would like to go on record that I object to
the use of "Responsible Adult". I believe our policy should use "Parent or
Legal Guardian". I believe the use of "Responsible Adult" is too vega and
could be problematic.I also understand some revisions are going to be done on
the current proposed policy, which will mean the revised policy will need to be
presented at the August general membership meeting and voted on at the
September membership meeting. There is no need to rush this as there are on
shown on the horizon for a long time. Let's be sure the majority of our
membership is in agreement with the policy.Carl Heimberger Sent from my iPad