If you read the attachment I sent, this policy only applies to NMRA events.
Attachment on this email also.
NOT train shows, Thomas days, home shows, etc. The only NMRA sponsored event we
have done was with the boy scouts and we are not allowed to do that anymore per
NMRA rules.
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 11:53:28 AM PDT, Russ Bellinis
<russbellinis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What effect would this have on our category of "Junior Members"? My grandson
Aidan is the only one of my grandkids that is interested in trains. He is 9
but when he has run trains with us he acts like he is 9 going on 30. When he
is 12 I would like to see if he would be interested in being a Jr. Member and
come to shows with me to help with set up and run trains.Russ
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:45 AM Carl Heimberger <cjheimberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Russ
We cannot protect the world, there are a lot of bad people out there. The
question is what is out liability and it may just mean we no longer do KRT.
Carl
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On Jul 15, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Russ Bellinis <russbellinis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I would also add that "parents or guardians" does not protect kids from abusive
parents which is probably almost as bad a situation as the Boy Scout
problem.Russ
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:36 AM Russ Bellinis <russbellinis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl,Parent or Guardian eliminates Grandparents, Aunts or Uncles, or even adult
siblings. I have often brought my grandson to train shows and supervised while
he ran trains. I would not be able to do that if supervision is restricted to
parents or guardians.Russ
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:02 AM Annette Palmer <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
attached is the actual NMRA at rick person policy pulled from the website. It
shows Legal Guardian and not responsible adult. this policy only applies to
NMRA events and not our other shows, so we did not need a sign for the train
shows, home shows, Thomas days, etc, only events that are NMRA
sponsored.<1594835681775blob.jpg>
The following are the items I do not agree with on the new KRT policy
item 4 on the procedures shows this "Inaddition, a Responsible Adult (defined
below) of the child must also sign thesheet next to their child’s name. " this
should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event and
would require the affidavit, I do not want to have to have parent or guardian
sign paper to have the child run.
1. The following rules must be followed at all times:
a. Child mustbe accompanied by a Responsible Adult at all times -this
should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.
b. Child mustwear the lanyard holding the throttle around their neck at all
times.-this should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored
event.
c. The child musthave the Responsible Adult’shelp if they are not tall
enough to see the trains. -this should be stated as parent or legal guardian at
a NMRA sponsored event.
d. The clubmember should walk with the child and beon the outside of the
layout with child and Responsible Adult. At no time should the child and
parent beallowed inside the layout.--this should state the club member must
walk with the child, as I stated in my original emails, the member will hand
the control to someone and then go and sit down and not watch what is
happening, this has lead to a lot of derailments and collisions. This has
caused damage to peoples trains and the club does not pay for the repairs for
this happening.
7. Members who are conducting a childand Responsible Adult around the layout
are to give them their full attentionand not stop and talk to others until they
are done with the child.this should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a
NMRA sponsored event.
8. Trains should stop at least 24” (inches) behind astationary train to prevent
collisions and to provide an adequate space to stoptrain in case child cannot
stop in time.- 2 feet is a long way to stop and try to keep things moving, we
usually have them stop 3 to 6 inches from train ahead of them. If the member is
walking with the child then this should not be an issue.
Note: For NMRA sponsored events, their rules require that theResponsible Adult
must be a Parent (no exceptions). NMRA states must be parent or legal guardian
with a notarized form.
Annette
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:04:41 AM PDT, Carl Heimberger
<cjheimberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To the OCMR BOD
I would like to go on record that I object to the use of "Responsible Adult".
I believe our policy should use "Parent or Legal Guardian". I believe the use
of "Responsible Adult" is too vega and could be problematic.
I also understand some revisions are going to be done on the current proposed
policy, which will mean the revised policy will need to be presented at the
August general membership meeting and voted on at the September membership
meeting. There is no need to rush this as there are on shown on the horizon
for a long time. Let's be sure the majority of our membership is in agreement
with the policy.
Carl Heimberger
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Attachment:
NMRA At Risk Persons Policy.pdf
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