Members;
Before any membership discussion takes place any member wishing to make comment
should take the time to read the NMRA document NMRA AT-RISK PERSONS POLICY, it
is only eleven points long. The eleventh point: “11. 100% NMRA Clubs are not
a part of the NMRA or its regions and divisions. It is an insurance program to
support model railroad clubs whose entire membership are NMRA members against
personal injury lawsuits, only.”. Further NMRA continues to have youth
membership: "1.d. Student Membership is a membership category in the NMRA is
not a program,”.
Some of you are carrying this too far, the only shows this policy applies to is
national, regional, & division activities. We hardly ever setup for any of
these events and the only one that would have a lot of “students” would be the
National Trains Show (we had a layout in 2008). Families and children are not
invited to the other events. Now if we operated at the LA Division South Coast
Botanic Garden then we would have to operate under the policy of the NMRA even
thought it isn’t a “student” sponsored event.
With that being said, the policy we adopt is for the OCRM and should not have
to be dictated by the NMRA policy.
Mike Allee
On Jul 16, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Redacted sender catsandy2000 for DMARC
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mon Tues or Wed but not before 4pm. I am on computer all day so I do not want
to be it for a long time after I get off work.
On Jul 16, 2020 3:13 PM, Ronald Banco <bancoarchitect@xxxxxxx
<mailto:bancoarchitect@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Annette,
Thanks for your response, we look forward to getting together with you and
the E-Board to discuss and iron out any differences we may have for
presentation to the membership.
Are there any evenings that work best for you?
Ron
From: ourocmr-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ourocmr-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Annette Palmer (Redacted sender "catsandy2000" for DMARC)
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 10:59 AM
To: ourocmr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ourocmr] Re: KRT Policy
attached is the actual NMRA at rick person policy pulled from the website. It
shows Legal Guardian and not responsible adult. this policy only applies to
NMRA events and not our other shows, so we did not need a sign for the train
shows, home shows, Thomas days, etc, only events that are NMRA sponsored.
The following are the items I do not agree with on the new KRT policy
item 4 on the procedures shows this "In addition, a Responsible Adult
(defined below) of the child must also sign the sheet next to their child’s
name. " this should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored
event and would require the affidavit, I do not want to have to have parent
or guardian sign paper to have the child run.
1. The following rules must be followed at all times:
a. Child must be accompanied by a Responsible Adult at all times -this
should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.
b. Child must wear the lanyard holding the throttle around their neck at
all times.-this should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA
sponsored event.
c. The child must have the Responsible Adult’s help if they are not tall
enough to see the trains. -this should be stated as parent or legal guardian
at a NMRA sponsored event.
d. The club member should walk with the child and be on the outside of the
layout with child and Responsible Adult. At no time should the child and
parent be allowed inside the layout.--this should state the club member must
walk with the child, as I stated in my original emails, the member will hand
the control to someone and then go and sit down and not watch what is
happening, this has lead to a lot of derailments and collisions. This has
caused damage to peoples trains and the club does not pay for the repairs for
this happening.
7. Members who are conducting a child and Responsible Adult around the layout
are to give them their full attention and not stop and talk to others until
they are done with the child.this should be stated as parent or legal
guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.
8. Trains should stop at least 24” (inches) behind a stationary train to
prevent collisions and to provide an adequate space to stop train in case
child cannot stop in time.- 2 feet is a long way to stop and try to keep
things moving, we usually have them stop 3 to 6 inches from train ahead of
them. If the member is walking with the child then this should not be an
issue.
Note: For NMRA sponsored events, their rules require that the Responsible
Adult must be a Parent (no exceptions). NMRA states must be parent or legal
guardian with a notarized form.
Annette
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:04:41 AM PDT, Carl Heimberger
<cjheimberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To the OCMR BOD
I would like to go on record that I object to the use of "Responsible Adult".
I believe our policy should use "Parent or Legal Guardian". I believe the
use of "Responsible Adult" is too vega and could be problematic.
I also understand some revisions are going to be done on the current proposed
policy, which will mean the revised policy will need to be presented at the
August general membership meeting and voted on at the September membership
meeting. There is no need to rush this as there are on shown on the horizon
for a long time. Let's be sure the majority of our membership is in
agreement with the policy.
Carl Heimberger
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