Russ
We cannot protect the world, there are a lot of bad people out there. The
question is what is out liability and it may just mean we no longer do KRT.
Carl
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On Jul 15, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Russ Bellinis <russbellinis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I would also add that "parents or guardians" does not protect kids from
abusive parents which is probably almost as bad a situation as the Boy Scout
problem.
Russ
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:36 AM Russ Bellinis <russbellinis@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Carl,
Parent or Guardian eliminates Grandparents, Aunts or Uncles, or even adult
siblings. I have often brought my grandson to train shows and supervised
while he ran trains. I would not be able to do that if supervision is
restricted to parents or guardians.
Russ
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:02 AM Annette Palmer
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
attached is the actual NMRA at rick person policy pulled from the website.
It shows Legal Guardian and not responsible adult. this policy only applies
to NMRA events and not our other shows, so we did not need a sign for the
train shows, home shows, Thomas days, etc, only events that are NMRA
sponsored.
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The following are the items I do not agree with on the new KRT policy
item 4 on the procedures shows this "In addition, a Responsible Adult
(defined below) of the child must also sign the sheet next to their child’s
name. " this should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA
sponsored event and would require the affidavit, I do not want to have to
have parent or guardian sign paper to have the child run.
1. The following rules must be followed at all times:
a. Child must be accompanied by a Responsible Adult at all times -this
should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.
b. Child must wear the lanyard holding the throttle around their neck at
all times.-this should be stated as parent or legal guardian at a NMRA
sponsored event.
c. The child must have the Responsible Adult’s help if they are not
tall enough to see the trains. -this should be stated as parent or legal
guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.
d. The club member should walk with the child and be on the outside of
the layout with child and Responsible Adult. At no time should the child
and parent be allowed inside the layout.--this should state the club member
must walk with the child, as I stated in my original emails, the member
will hand the control to someone and then go and sit down and not watch
what is happening, this has lead to a lot of derailments and collisions.
This has caused damage to peoples trains and the club does not pay for the
repairs for this happening.
7. Members who are conducting a child and Responsible Adult around the
layout are to give them their full attention and not stop and talk to
others until they are done with the child.this should be stated as parent
or legal guardian at a NMRA sponsored event.
8. Trains should stop at least 24” (inches) behind a stationary train to
prevent collisions and to provide an adequate space to stop train in case
child cannot stop in time.- 2 feet is a long way to stop and try to keep
things moving, we usually have them stop 3 to 6 inches from train ahead of
them. If the member is walking with the child then this should not be an
issue.
Note: For NMRA sponsored events, their rules require that the Responsible
Adult must be a Parent (no exceptions). NMRA states must be parent or legal
guardian with a notarized form.
Annette
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 10:04:41 AM PDT, Carl Heimberger
<cjheimberger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To the OCMR BOD
I would like to go on record that I object to the use of "Responsible
Adult". I believe our policy should use "Parent or Legal Guardian". I
believe the use of "Responsible Adult" is too vega and could be problematic.
I also understand some revisions are going to be done on the current
proposed policy, which will mean the revised policy will need to be
presented at the August general membership meeting and voted on at the
September membership meeting. There is no need to rush this as there are
on shown on the horizon for a long time. Let's be sure the majority of our
membership is in agreement with the policy.
Carl Heimberger
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