Miriam, it seems to me that you are determined to have someone put you
down so you look for ways to interpret a comment as a put down. Let me
explain my problem with prudery. Prudery is a problem on two levels,
political and personal. On a political level it has to be fought on a
political level. Most often, though, there are other political fights
that take priority. On a polittical level it takes the form of
censorship. As for myself, I may find those so-called fuck books boring,
but I have no problem at all with other people reading them. The censor,
though, just can't stand it if someone else wants to read that kind of
stuff and the objection is not that it is boring either. It is a moral
crusade on their part. I think I have mentioned before that I avoid the
word moral or its variations like morality because it is most often used
to deride other people for minding their own business. And, yes, the
political prude just can't stand it if other people are minding their
own business. They actually fight for the passage of laws that would
keep other people from minding their own business. That is not just
censorship of reading material, movies and music. They also want laws to
be passed that will prescribe who may have sex with whom under what
circumstances and even diown to the sex acts that they may engage in.
All of that self righteous interference in other people's business
really rankles me. Then there is prudery on a personal level. That can't
really be fought politically. But the prudes are really good at making
jerks of themselves. It is their self righteous judgementalism. They are
in a perpetual state of disapproval about things that are not their
business. I have explained my objections to bible thumpers before and
these self righteous prudes tend to be bible thumpers too. They are not
always so though. I have actually met people whoare in a constant state
of disapproval of other people's attitudes toward sex who do not push
religion. They still manage to be obnoxious, though, even if it is not
obnoxious on a religious level. And I have noticed characteristics that
people like that do tend to have in common. Pleease notice that I did
use the word tend. Their constant state of disapproval tends to extend
to other things that are not related to sex, per se. They will also
express disapproval in other people's choices in movies, books, music
clothing styles and so forth. It is as if their main goal in life is to
make themselves as obnoxious as possible.
___
Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through
disbelief and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were
so! Your patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply
a child's wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the
eveastingly bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory
scientifically demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had
not the courage to follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely,
you must realize that we created God, and that all of us together now
have killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept
On 6/8/2021 9:54 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
I suppose that's what it suggests. It wouldn't have occurred to me, but I think you're right. And I am an old woman so even though I'm not a grandmother because my daughters never had children, if you'd like to call me a prude, you're certainly welcome to do so. As I said previously, I don't have any quarrel with someone who wants to listen to that kind of music, but I don't like it. To me, it's unpleasant, to say the least. If that makes me a prude, so be it. You've chosen various other labels for me before which, to your mind are negative. It's not a particularly positive way to relate to fellow list members. It's one thing to give one's opinion on a subject and to discuss the subject and trade opinions. It's a very different thing to derogate the character of the list member who gives the opinion.
On an entirely different subject, you mentioned in one of your messages that you worked in a porn shop. In another message a while ago, you said that you controlled the lights in a bar or nightclub or someplace where there were floor shows. That caused me to wonder. Given the fact that you have a college education and that you are extremely intelligent, why didn't you work in the scientific field or in academia?
Miriam
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Okay, they are suggestive. In Whole Lot of Love I think they are suggestive of anal sex. You still haven't said whether you agree. But so what? Other songs are suggestive of other things. I don't see how it matters. I am curious about whether I am correct about exactly what is being suggested, but, like I said, I like Whole Lot of Love because of it overall sound and I especially like the atonal part. Whatever it is being suggestive about does not distract from that. A lot of explicit description of sex in a novel does distract from that and makes it kind of boring, but in a song whatever is being implied or not implied is irrelevant to the effect of the whole song. Getting upset about sexual implications in a song strikes me as another kind of gratuitousness, gratuitous prudery. It all reminds me of old grandmothers with buttoned up collars up to their chins and high laced boots under their ankle length dresses sitting around tut tutting about them young hussies who have the brazen temerity to walk down the street showing their knees. It all causes me to have the urge to roll my eyes.
___
Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at through disbelief and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing something were so! Your patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply a child's wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the eveastingly bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory scientifically demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had not the courage to follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must realize that we created God, and that all of us together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept
On 6/7/2021 10:16 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Maybe you're correct in the literal sense. But the words, the
moans and other vocal sounds are so suggestive, that they might as
well be explicit.
Miriam
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*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Carl, a Led Zeppelin song you
might like.
Actually, I don't see how you could say that the sex is explicit
in Whole Lot of Love. It seems to me to be only implied. But I am
inclined to agree with you about explicit descriptions of sex in
books. Well, I don't agree in the way you express it. I agree in
that I can well do without it. That's because it's boring. There
are only so many body parts that can be rubbed against so many
body parts and there are only so many ways to describe it. After
you have read all of those ways to describe it so many times it
just doesn't engender much interest anymore. Furthermore, I get to
thinking what the book would be like without the explicit
description of sex. If the descriptions are only now and then it
doesn't seem to have much effect and I can read those descriptions
without getting too bored even if I don't think they are
necessary. I will admit that sometimes, though, they are important
to the story, but it seems that for the most part they are
gratuitous. If they are a major part of the book then they are
most likely to be majorly gratuitous. In a case like that if the
descriptions of sex are removed there is not much substance left.
That shows that the main purpose of the book in question was to
explicitly describe sex. But I am reminded of something else from
when I was in the seventh grade. Or it may have been the eighth
grade. It was some time in junior high school. I don't now
remember how I came into possession of these, but I did acquire
some books that were explicitly written as porn. Among the
students in my school they were called fuck books. The first one I
read with extreme interest. I can even say that it was
titillating. The second one was too, but I started to get tired of
it before I finished. Then I started the third one. Okay, the
setting had changed and the names of the characters had changed,
but it was the same old stuff that the other two had in it and I
found it really boring by that time. I had some more and I may
have flipped through them, but I didn't care to read more. I just
passed them all on to someone else who was excited about reading
the forbidden fruit. I never picked up another one until many
years later when I found myself with a job as a clerk in a porn
shop. Most of the porn was in the form of picture books that
rested on racks that lined the wall and that we called magazines
even though they were not periodicals. But in the middle of the
floor there was a bin that contained a pile of those so-called
fuck books. I flipped through some of them and read a few
passages, but I quickly saw that it was the same old stuff and
still just as boring. But back to music. Again, I heard nothing in
Whole Lot of Love that I would call explicit description of sex
and I don't think I have heard that in any other song either.
There are a lot of songs out there that imply sex to one degree or
another, but I really don't think I have ever heard one that
actually describes it except, perhaps, some drinking songs sung by
complete amateurs while more than a little drunk. I have never
heard it in a commercial recording though.
___
Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at
through disbelief and skepticism, not through a childlike wishing
something were so! Your patient's wish to be in God's hands is not
truth. It is simply a child's wish—and nothing more! It is a wish
not to die, a wish for the eveastingly bloated nipple we have
labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory scientifically demonstrates
God's redundancy—though Darwin himself had not the courage to
follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must
realize that we created God, and that all of us together now have
killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept
On 6/7/2021 9:36 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Well first, I think that when your textbook was referring to
atonal music, it was talking about classical music, not
popular music. For people who enjoy traditional classical
music, that atonal classical music is very jarring and it
doesn't fulfill the needs that we are accustomed to music
fulfilling.
As for the lyrics, and the others which imply explicit sex, I
find those kinds of songs to be in bad taste. I don't like
novels which describe sex in explicit detail, that go on for
paragraph after paragraph. To me, they'repornographic and to
me, so are songs like the ones whose lyrics you've provided.
I don't begrudge anyone who enjoys the books or the songs, but
to me, they're not enjoyable. To me, sex can be wonderful and
enjoyable, but it's private. One can allude to it in a book
without going into detail, just as one can listen to love
songs without lyrics about the physical dynamics of sexual
intercourse.
Miriam
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*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Carl, a Led Zeppelin song you
might like.
I am learning that I really don't like lyrics very much that
are out of the context of the song they are from. It seems to
change their meaning or robs them of any meaning at all. I
also think that a lot of the meaning in the lyrics are
contained in the way the singer sings them. In Whole Lot of
Love I think the moaning and gasping quality of Robert Plants
voice contributes to any meaning the song has. It really does
imply some kind of sexual ecstasy. Perhaps what divorcing the
lyrics from the song is really doing is just exposing the
vacuousness of the songs that are vacuous in the first place.
But I went ahead and copied the lyrics for Whole lot of Love.
First, though, let me mention this. Back when I was about
twelve years old and in the seventh grade I had a music class.
The textbook for the class was explaining different kinds of
music. It mentioned atonal music. It said that some people
claim to like atonal music, but that they were likely not
telling the truth. It said that they were most likely trying
to set themselves apart or just trying to be different. At
that time I had never heard atonal music as far as I knew, but
I could not help thinking that the author of that textbook was
an arrogant jerk. That is, just because he didn't like
something he just declared that anyone who said that they did
like it had to be lying. I later found out that the places
that I would most likely hear atonal music was the background
music for action and thriller movies. Sometimes when there is
intense action on the screen they use orchestral atonal music
as background to heighten the excitement. I still had not
heard atonal music in the context of a piece of music
presented as just a piece of music by itself. The first time
I ever heard that was in Led Zeppelin's Whole Lot of Love. If
you listened to even the first part of it you will know that
it is not all atonal, but as the song progresses it fades into
atonality. That is the part where Robert Plant, the lead
singer, starts with the moans and groans. Again,, I think that
is important to determining what the song is really all about.
But I found that I did like the atonal part. Just like Dazed
and Confused my liking of the song has little to do with the
lyrics. It has to do with the sound of the whole song. But I
can assure you that even though the atonal part is largely why
I like the song it has nothing to do with my trying to set
myself apart or trying to be different. I really do like it.
Anyway, the point came that I started suspecting that the song
was about anal sex. Up to a certain point it didn't have to
be. All this stuff about every inch of my love and way deep
down inside and so forth could just as well be referring to
vaginal sex, but the wording just was not quite the way that
vaginal sex would be expected to be described. The clenches,
though, was that part right toward the end where the singer
says, "I want to be your back door man." Back door is exactly
the phrase that commonly describes anal sex. Anyway, even
though I think it detracts from whatever meaning the song has
here are the lyrics:
You need cooling
Baby I'm not fooling
I'm gonna send ya
Back to schooling
A-way down inside
A-honey you need it
I'm gonna give you my love
I'm gonna give you my love
Want to whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
You've been learning
Um baby I been learning
All them good times baby, baby
I've been year-yearning
A-way, way down inside
A-honey you need-ah
I'm gonna give you my love, ah
I'm gonna give you my love, ah oh
Whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
You've been cooling
And baby I've been drooling
All the good times, baby
I've been misusing
A-way, way down inside
I'm gonna give ya my love
I'm gonna give ya every inch of my love
I'm gonna give ya my love
Hey!
Alright! Let's go!
Whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
Want to whole lotta love
Way down inside
Woman, you need, yeah
Love
My, my, my, my
My, my, my, my
Lord
Shake for me girl
I wanna be your backdoor man
Hey, oh, hey, oh
Hey, oh, hey, oh
Ooh
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Cool, my, my baby
A-keep it cooling baby
A-keep it cooling baby
Ah-keep it cooling baby
Ah-keep it cooling baby
Ah-keep it cooling baby
___
Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived at
through disbelief and skepticism, not through a childlike
wishing something were so! Your patient's wish to be in God's
hands is not truth. It is simply a child's wish—and nothing
more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for the eveastingly
bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory
scientifically demonstrates God's redundancy—though Darwin
himself had not the courage to follow his evidence to its true
conclusion. Surely, you must realize that we created God, and
that all of us together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D.
Yalom, When Nietzsche Wept
On 6/7/2021 4:23 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Well, if you send the lyrics, I'll hazard an opinion. It's
hard to hear them and I really don't like listening to
that kind of music. I started thinking about the lyrics of
the popular songs of the 30's and 40's that I like and no
one could ever be confused about their meaning. "All of
Me", "I Walk Alone" (during WW2), or folk music like,
"Kisses Sweeter Than Wine".
Miriam
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*Subject:* Re: [blind-democracy] Re: Carl, a Led Zeppelin
song you might like.
It was just an acquaintance of mine who was giving me a
ride. I happened to mention that my two favorite Led
Zeppelin songs were Dazed and Confused and Whole Lot of
Love and he told me that Dazed and Confused was
misogynist. He was male. I had said that I liked the song
for years without ever having paid attention to the lyrics
and I think the same applied to him. He heard that line
about the soul of a woman being created below and jumped
to the conclusion that it was about all women. Then there
we were having an argument, a friendly argument in the car
about the song without either of us knowing very clearly
what the lyrics actually were. But that inspired me to
look up the song on You Tube when I got home and I posted
the link to it here to get the opinions of people on this
list. Now that I have read the lyrics completely through I
am even more convinced that I am right. By the way, this
didn't come up, but I also happen to think that other
song, Whole lot of Love is about anal sex. Here is the
link to that one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQmmM_qwG4k
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQmmM_qwG4k>
Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is arrived
at through disbelief and skepticism, not through a
childlike wishing something were so! Your patient's wish
to be in God's hands is not truth. It is simply a child's
wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not to die, a wish for
the eveastingly bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'!
Evolutionary theory scientifically demonstrates God's
redundancy—though Darwin himself had not the courage to
follow his evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you
must realize that we created God, and that all of us
together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When
Nietzsche Wept
On 6/7/2021 3:33 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Who told you that it's misogynist? It isn't about all
women. It's a specific situation. Was the person a woman?
Miriam
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*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Carl, a Led Zeppelin
song you might like.
Since Stairway to Heaven came across so entirely
different to me when I heard it without the music and
without it being sung I decided to look up the lyrics
to Dazed and Confused too. I can report that even
though it came across entirely differently without the
music and being sung too my interpretation of it
remains the same. It appears to be the point of view
of a man who is being emotionally abused by a woman
and he is so addicted to her that he keeps coming back
for more abuse. And I still don't think it is the
least bit misogynist. But I am still not into poetry
and I really prefer both of these songs as songs
rather than as poetry. Here are the lyrics to Dazed
and Confused:
Been dazed and confused
For so long, it's not true
Wanted a woman, never bargained for you
Lotsa people talkin',
Few of them know
Soul of a woman was created below, yeah
You hurt and abuse,
Tellin' all of your lies
Run 'round, sweet baby, lord, how they hypnotize
Sweet little baby, I don't know where you been
Gonna love you, baby, here I come again
Every day I work so hard, bringin' home my hard-earned pay
Try to love you, baby, but you push me away
Don't know where you're goin',
Only know just where you've been
Sweet little baby, I want you again
Ah, ah, ah, ah
(Did you ever look up my woman)
Ah, ah-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah, ah
Ahh, ah, ah, ah, ah
Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ahhh, ahh
Oh, yeah, alright, alright
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah, ah
Ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah
Oh, I don't like when you're mystifyin' me
Oh, don't leave me so confused, now
Whoa, baby
Been dazed and confused for so long, it's not true
Wanted a woman, never bargained for you
Take it easy, baby,
Let them say what they will
Tongue wag so much when I send you the bill,
Oh, yeah, alright
___
Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is
arrived at through disbelief and skepticism, not
through a childlike wishing something were so! Your
patient's wish to be in God's hands is not truth. It
is simply a child's wish—and nothing more! It is a
wish not to die, a wish for the eveastingly bloated
nipple we have labeled 'God'! Evolutionary theory
scientifically demonstrates God's redundancy—though
Darwin himself had not the courage to follow his
evidence to its true conclusion. Surely, you must
realize that we created God, and that all of us
together now have killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When
Nietzsche Wept
On 6/7/2021 1:02 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Roger,
I listened to the song twice, and I confirmed what I was
afraid has
happened. While I still seem to hear normal conversation,
my hearing
has changed to the point that the music garbles the lyrics.
The only
clear words I got came at the very end, "And she's buying
the stairway
to heaven".
I used to have above average hearing, but in some
situations where
multiple sounds mix together, I'm having a difficult time
following
one thread. I'll need to find a link that takes me to just
the lyrics
before I can comment on them.
Along with living 86 years comes this darned thing called
"The Aging
Process", a nice way of saying that our parts are wearing
out. When
we first bought our get away cabin out here in the Wilds of
the Great
Olympic Peninsula in 1987, I could stand on the deck and
hear what
sounded like a sizzling. It was very faint, and in the
city it was
not even noticeable. Today, some 34 years later, the
sizzle has grown
to the point that it is always noticeable. Many little
changes keep
showing up. While we felt that we were forcced to retire a
year
earlier than we had planned, I can't imagine that I would
be an
encouraging sight to an older, newly blind client watching
me hobble
up to their door. Remember, most blind folks have varying
degrees of
useful vision. As my dear old neighbor used to tell me
when I asked
her how she was doing, "My get up and go has got up and
went."
Carl Jarvis
On 6/7/21, Carl Jarvis<carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:carjar82@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for the comments and suggestions, Roger.
I do use You Tube for lots of off-beat music. Paul
Robeson for
example. One of my personal human rights heroes, as
well as the
greatest baritone ever.
I have a shelf above my computer that holds about 120
CD's. Most of
them have only been played once. Collecting them over
several years
seemed like a good idea, but playing them while working
became too
distracting. Pulling up You Tube is easier when I take
a break and
relax.
I'll let you know any thoughts next time I listen to
Led Zeppelin and
the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven.
Carl Jarvis
On 6/6/21, Roger Loran Bailey<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl, you really ought to listen to the lyrics. It
is disdainful of the
woman who thinks all that glitters is gold and her
temerity at trying to
buy the stairway to heaven. All of that seems to
mesh with the kind of
things you habitually say. As for buying it,
frankly, I haven't been
willing to actually pay for music since I was a
teenager. Anyway, even
if I did have any lingering lust for paying for
music I don't need to.
Just like I was able to call up this one by typing
in a very few search
terms I can call up pretty much any other piece of
music I might want to
hear. You can too. Just go to You Tube and enter
the name and band name
of your choice and in short order you will be
hearing that big band
music you like. There are other choices too. Even
though I knew about it
I had not really listened to much death metal music
until I downloaded
the Tapin radio software for free. I did a search
there and found
several death metal stations that play around the
clock with no
commercials. I found out that I rather like death
metal. Now I can find
the same stations on my Victor reader. And, oh, I
think I can just about
guarantee that you wouldn't like any examples of
death metal. Led
Zeppelin and Black Sabbath are really tame in
comparison.
___
Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued, "is
arrived at through
disbelief and skepticism, not through a childlike
wishing something were
so! Your patient's wish to be in God's hands is not
truth. It is simply
a child's wish—and nothing more! It is a wish not
to die, a wish for the
eveastingly bloated nipple we have labeled 'God'!
Evolutionary theory
scientifically demonstrates God's redundancy—though
Darwin himself had
not the courage to follow his evidence to its true
conclusion. Surely,
you must realize that we created God, and that all
of us together now
have killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When Nietzsche
Wept
On 6/6/2021 5:23 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
You're right, Roger. While I am not a fan of
the lead singer, the
overall effect is soothing. And they don't
become frantic at the end.
Some groups just can't help themselves. They
create a soothing sound
that flows through my Soul...and suddenly they
go bananas. I have to
admit, I listened to the total effect, not the
lyrics. And the total
effect was fine. So I browsed a number of Led
Zeppelin songs, and
found that I would never pay for any Led
Zeppelin albums.
The problem is within me. I grew up with the
Big Band sound, and went
along with the goosey loosey music of the
fifties. I was moved by
much of the creativeness of the sixties and
seventies, but struggled
with Hip Hop and Grunge. And as far as Rap
goes...it can go. Write
me a short poem telling me your troubles, but
please don't put it to
music and snarl out the lyrics over and over
and over...
Actually there is not much music that I don't
care for. I enjoy
Country, especially the older forties and
fifties, and I love
Classical...excluding Chamber Music, and most
Jazz except the stuff
that goes piddling around and wanders off in
four directions at once.
Did I forget Blue Grass? There's just not much
I don't like. But if
it jars my nerves...well that's not music to me.
But thanks for showing me that even a group
that I have avoided, even
they have some redeeming grace.
Carl Jarvis
On 6/5/21, Roger Loran
Bailey<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Carl, okay, you didn't like Dazed and
Confused. I am pretty sure you
probably would not like much else that Led
Zeppelin ever did either.
However, there is one Led Zeppelin song
that I think you just might
like. I said that I had never paid
attention to the words in Dazed and
Confused before, but in this one the words
are so clear and so out
front
that it would be difficult to listen to it
without paying attention to
it. Furthermore I think you just might be
in agreement with the
sentiments expressed in this one. It is
certainly disdainful of greed
and privilege. It is Stairway to Heaven.
Let me know if you do like
this
one from Led
Zeppelin:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkF3oxziUI4 ;
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkF3oxziUI4>
--
Irvin D. Yalom “Truth," Nietzsche continued,
"is arrived at through
disbelief and skepticism, not through a
childlike wishing something
were
so! Your patient's wish to be in God's
hands is not truth. It is simply
a child's wish—and nothing more! It is a
wish not to die, a wish for
the
eveastingly bloated nipple we have labeled
'God'! Evolutionary theory
scientifically demonstrates God's
redundancy—though Darwin himself had
not the courage to follow his evidence to
its true conclusion. Surely,
you must realize that we created God, and
that all of us together now
have killed him.” ― Irvin D. Yalom, When
Nietzsche Wept