[gps-talkusers] Re: fps-talk users route options in future update
- From: brandon armstrong <baarmstrong37@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:40:57 -0500
this feature does still turn on when you arrive when you turn the auto repeat
off.
On Jul 15, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Chris Grabowski <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> See my last message on this topic.
> Go into route options and turn off repeat.
>
> I don't think it effects the last two minutes after the route closes but it
> effects the repeating while a route is open.
> Chris
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> On 7/14/2014 10:49 PM, Luke French wrote:
>> I would also like the auction not to have getting warmer mode turn on. Thank
>> you
>>
>> Luke
>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 1:42 PM, brandon armstrong <baarmstrong37@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi all, I was wondering sense we now have google maps in seeing eye,
>>> could we have the google POI”s as a search option in the seeing eye app, as
>>> well as an option to turn off getting warmer mode when in a route?
>>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dennis Schwendtner <dennis@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you know the address, you should already know wich side of the street
>>>> the poi is on.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:13 AM
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: What Side of the Street is a POI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> why don't you give it a try and let us know...
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-
>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sofia Gallo
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:10
>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: What Side of the Street is a POI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if Google Maps knows what side of the street a POI is in and now we
>>>>>> have the option of using Google Maps, do you think this new option
>>>>>> will help in this regard?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/10/14, Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> I know the pattern in my city but I have to go to different places a
>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>> which is why I asked. As Taylor said, some apps know what side of the
>>>>>> street
>>>>>>> a place is so I just asked how this works with the app.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously the app doesn't replace o and m skills or being aware of
>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> surroundings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:03 PM, "M. Taylor" <mktay@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello George and All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it true that Seeing Eye does not know what side of the street a
>>>>>> POI is
>>>>>>>> located? I don't navigate to POIs very often choosing instead to
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> cross street names spoken as my primary navigational tool.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, when I use A T & T Navigator or the Google Maps app on my
>>>>>> iPhone,
>>>>>>>> it always tells me what side of the street the POI is located.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps I'm missing something here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George B
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:37 PM
>>>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, all the address and pois come off the center line of the
>>>>>> street so
>>>>>>>> seeing eye does not get what side of the street the poi is on. Thus
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> need to understand the odd and even numbers of an address and then
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> will know what side of the street you need to be on. Come on now
>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>> how would you figer it out if you would were using a stick and or
>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Holmes,
>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 19:30
>>>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Sofia and all,
>>>>>>>> It is important to be one step ahead of your GPS and to check the
>>>>>> route
>>>>>>>> details.
>>>>>>>> That is, you should be aware of the turn you need to make following
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> one your GPS has told you about in order to determine whether or not
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> cross at the upcoming intersection. For instance, if the GPS asks
>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>>> turn left onto "x" street, you should check whether the turn onto
>>>>>> "y"
>>>>>>>> street is left or right. If it is a left turn then you do not need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> cross, but if it is right then you need to consider crossing.
>>>>>> Obviously
>>>>>>>> you would then use your O and M skills to determine the most
>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>>> place to cross the street.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sofia Gallo
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 12:12 PM
>>>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did notice some of the routes had a lot of turns, but that doesn't
>>>>>>>> bother me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have had trouble figuring out if I should turn before or after
>>>>>> crossing
>>>>>>>> a street. For example, if the GPS says 'turn right on 74th street"
>>>>>> in nyc,
>>>>>>>> you couldd turn on that street and then cross or you could cross
>>>>>> thann
>>>>>>>> turn right. These are different sides of a block, vut the street
>>>>>> mame is
>>>>>>>> the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any tips on how to deal with this? Has anyone else experienced this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (i know GPS isn't perfect so this may be one of those times when
>>>>>> making an
>>>>>>>> educated guess may be the only optiom).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Armando Maldonado"
>>>>>>>>> <armando.maldonado0767@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well said Mike, it's always good to have both the new and the old
>>>>>>>>> combined when it comes to travel. I try not to rely on such but
>>>>>> whenever
>>>>>>>>> I travel I would do the Virtual explore route and maybe turn on the
>>>>>> GPS
>>>>>>>>> if I feel I am lost, just for orientation purposes only.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
>>>>>> May
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:13 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kelly,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is how it works. The map data is structured such that each
>>>>>> street is
>>>>>>>>> classified by the map data provider such as residential, arterial,
>>>>>>>>> highway and so forth. The route calculation then uses those
>>>>>>>>> classifications to figure out pedestrian verses a vehicle route. I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> found situations where a route wasn't used as pedestrian because
>>>>>> the road
>>>>>>>>> was considered a highway, like highway 99, which would be a highway
>>>>>>>>> outside of town but it is Main street in town and quite crossable.
>>>>>> Other
>>>>>>>>> times, the reverse is true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have any of the other Sendero products, you can see the
>>>>>>>>> classification of every street. Sendero has no control over these
>>>>>>>>> classifications. Hence all the disclaimers that tell you not to
>>>>>> trust the
>>>>>>>>> data or the GPS signals. Proceed with caution!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are stories about how someone drove their car into a river
>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> the GPS directed them that way. I hope most users are more
>>>>>> skeptical than
>>>>>>>>> that and use the technology with common sense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kelly
>>>>>> Pierce
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:42 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm glad this topic was raised. Living in a big city that strictly
>>>>>>>>> follows a grid street design, I have noticed that the Seeing Eye
>>>>>> GPS app
>>>>>>>>> suggests pedestrian routes that an independent blind traveler would
>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>> take. It seems the Seeing Eye app offers the shortest route
>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>> This often results in routes that take many turns or ones that
>>>>>> require
>>>>>>>>> the blind traveler crossing streets without traffic controlled
>>>>>>>>> intersections. For example, I was walking from the Rockwell brown
>>>>>> Line L
>>>>>>>>> station in Chicago at 4648 N. Rockwell to the Lincoln Square
>>>>>> location of
>>>>>>>>> the Crossfit Defined gym at 2750 W.
>>>>>>>>> Lawrence. The Seeing Eye app wanted me to go north to Leland, west
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> Talman and then cross busy Lawrence. There is no traffic light at
>>>>>>>>> Talman. Instead, I chose to go on Rockwell north to Lawrence and
>>>>>> cross
>>>>>>>>> at the traffic light and then go west to my address. The entire
>>>>>> trip is
>>>>>>>>> only three tenths of a mile.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A similar situation happened this week when I wanted to travel from
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> office at Washington and Dearborn in Chicago to the Industrious
>>>>>> shared
>>>>>>>>> work space at 320 W. Ohio. This is a distance of one mile. The
>>>>>>>>> seeing Eye app told me to go north on Dearborn to Wacker Drive, go
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> block west to Clark street then go north to Hubbard Street. On
>>>>>>>>> Hubbard, I would walk just a few hundred feet to Wells Street.
>>>>>> Then,
>>>>>>>>> the app wanted me to go north on Wells Street and then to take a
>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>>> turn on Grand Avenue. I then needed to take a right turn when I
>>>>>>>>> reached Franklin Street so I was going north again. Then only
>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>> 290 feet, I finally turn left going west on Ohio street to my
>>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>> An independent blind traveler would simply go north on Dearborn or
>>>>>> Clark
>>>>>>>>> to Ohio and then west to the address.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These routes were created using Tom tom maps. It is perplexing to
>>>>>> me why
>>>>>>>>> a travel aid for the blind would create such complex pedestrian
>>>>>> routes
>>>>>>>>> going short distances. There are full sidewalks on Rockwell and all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> way up Dearborn and Clark streets. The many turns and avoidance of
>>>>>>>>> traffic lights does not make sense. With Apple maps, the end user
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> often given three choices of routes to take, each with a different
>>>>>> set of
>>>>>>>>> priorities. One route may favor major streets.
>>>>>>>>> Another may have the shortest distance or travel time. Another may
>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>>> the fewest turns. With the Seeing Eye, GPS the end user has no
>>>>>> choice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/14, Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So I've noticed that most of the threads discuss using GPS while
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>>> car or paratransit service, so I figured I would start a
>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>> for those who use the app mostly for walking routes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any experiences, tips or suggestions to share?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I recently started using the app in NYC, and it is extremely
>>>>>>>>>> accurate, even with the tall buildings.
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