[gps-talkusers] Re: What Side of the Street is a POI
- From: Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:10:29 -0400
So if Google Maps knows what side of the street a POI is in and now we
have the option of using Google Maps, do you think this new option
will help in this regard?
On 7/10/14, Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I know the pattern in my city but I have to go to different places a lot
> which is why I asked. As Taylor said, some apps know what side of the street
> a place is so I just asked how this works with the app.
>
>
> Obviously the app doesn't replace o and m skills or being aware of our
> surroundings.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:03 PM, "M. Taylor" <mktay@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello George and All,
>>
>> Is it true that Seeing Eye does not know what side of the street a POI is
>> located? I don't navigate to POIs very often choosing instead to have
>> cross street names spoken as my primary navigational tool.
>>
>> However, when I use A T & T Navigator or the Google Maps app on my iPhone,
>> it always tells me what side of the street the POI is located.
>>
>> Perhaps I'm missing something here.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George B
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:37 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>
>> Also, all the address and pois come off the center line of the street so
>> seeing eye does not get what side of the street the poi is on. Thus you
>> need to understand the odd and even numbers of an address and then you
>> will know what side of the street you need to be on. Come on now folks
>> how would you figer it out if you would were using a stick and or guide
>> dog
>>
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Holmes, Nicole
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 19:30
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>
>> Hi Sofia and all,
>> It is important to be one step ahead of your GPS and to check the route
>> details.
>> That is, you should be aware of the turn you need to make following the
>> one your GPS has told you about in order to determine whether or not to
>> cross at the upcoming intersection. For instance, if the GPS asks you to
>> turn left onto "x" street, you should check whether the turn onto "y"
>> street is left or right. If it is a left turn then you do not need to
>> cross, but if it is right then you need to consider crossing. Obviously
>> you would then use your O and M skills to determine the most appropriate
>> place to cross the street.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nicole
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sofia Gallo
>> Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 12:12 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>
>> I did notice some of the routes had a lot of turns, but that doesn't
>> bother me.
>>
>> I have had trouble figuring out if I should turn before or after crossing
>> a street. For example, if the GPS says 'turn right on 74th street" in nyc,
>> you couldd turn on that street and then cross or you could cross thann
>> turn right. These are different sides of a block, vut the street mame is
>> the same.
>>
>> Any tips on how to deal with this? Has anyone else experienced this?
>>
>> (i know GPS isn't perfect so this may be one of those times when making an
>> educated guess may be the only optiom).
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Armando Maldonado"
>>> <armando.maldonado0767@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well said Mike, it's always good to have both the new and the old
>>> combined when it comes to travel. I try not to rely on such but whenever
>>> I travel I would do the Virtual explore route and maybe turn on the GPS
>>> if I feel I am lost, just for orientation purposes only.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:13 PM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>>
>>> Kelly,
>>>
>>> Here is how it works. The map data is structured such that each street is
>>> classified by the map data provider such as residential, arterial,
>>> highway and so forth. The route calculation then uses those
>>> classifications to figure out pedestrian verses a vehicle route. I have
>>> found situations where a route wasn't used as pedestrian because the road
>>> was considered a highway, like highway 99, which would be a highway
>>> outside of town but it is Main street in town and quite crossable. Other
>>> times, the reverse is true.
>>>
>>> If you have any of the other Sendero products, you can see the
>>> classification of every street. Sendero has no control over these
>>> classifications. Hence all the disclaimers that tell you not to trust the
>>> data or the GPS signals. Proceed with caution!
>>>
>>> There are stories about how someone drove their car into a river because
>>> the GPS directed them that way. I hope most users are more skeptical than
>>> that and use the technology with common sense.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:42 PM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>>>
>>> I'm glad this topic was raised. Living in a big city that strictly
>>> follows a grid street design, I have noticed that the Seeing Eye GPS app
>>> suggests pedestrian routes that an independent blind traveler would never
>>> take. It seems the Seeing Eye app offers the shortest route possible.
>>> This often results in routes that take many turns or ones that require
>>> the blind traveler crossing streets without traffic controlled
>>> intersections. For example, I was walking from the Rockwell brown Line L
>>> station in Chicago at 4648 N. Rockwell to the Lincoln Square location of
>>> the Crossfit Defined gym at 2750 W.
>>> Lawrence. The Seeing Eye app wanted me to go north to Leland, west to
>>> Talman and then cross busy Lawrence. There is no traffic light at
>>> Talman. Instead, I chose to go on Rockwell north to Lawrence and cross
>>> at the traffic light and then go west to my address. The entire trip is
>>> only three tenths of a mile.
>>>
>>> A similar situation happened this week when I wanted to travel from my
>>> office at Washington and Dearborn in Chicago to the Industrious shared
>>> work space at 320 W. Ohio. This is a distance of one mile. The
>>> seeing Eye app told me to go north on Dearborn to Wacker Drive, go one
>>> block west to Clark street then go north to Hubbard Street. On
>>> Hubbard, I would walk just a few hundred feet to Wells Street. Then,
>>> the app wanted me to go north on Wells Street and then to take a left
>>> turn on Grand Avenue. I then needed to take a right turn when I
>>> reached Franklin Street so I was going north again. Then only after
>>> 290 feet, I finally turn left going west on Ohio street to my address.
>>> An independent blind traveler would simply go north on Dearborn or Clark
>>> to Ohio and then west to the address.
>>>
>>> These routes were created using Tom tom maps. It is perplexing to me why
>>> a travel aid for the blind would create such complex pedestrian routes
>>> going short distances. There are full sidewalks on Rockwell and all the
>>> way up Dearborn and Clark streets. The many turns and avoidance of
>>> traffic lights does not make sense. With Apple maps, the end user is
>>> often given three choices of routes to take, each with a different set of
>>> priorities. One route may favor major streets.
>>> Another may have the shortest distance or travel time. Another may offer
>>> the fewest turns. With the Seeing Eye, GPS the end user has no choice.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 7/8/14, Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> So I've noticed that most of the threads discuss using GPS while in a
>>>> car or paratransit service, so I figured I would start a discussion
>>>> for those who use the app mostly for walking routes.
>>>>
>>>> Any experiences, tips or suggestions to share?
>>>>
>>>> I recently started using the app in NYC, and it is extremely
>>>> accurate, even with the tall buildings.
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