Craig Birkmaier wrote: >> Yes, darn it, we agree you send some redundant info. (I am >> doing it now ;-) ) I was both originally, and still, saying >> and agreeing that no extra info is magically conjured up >> ("provided") on the receiving end that was not sent, at >> least in aggregate. Glad we have that cleared up. > > Obviously the issue is not cleared up. Once again Bert is > smokin some good stuff. > > The MPEG encoded bit are what they are. There is no redundancy > or error correction in the encoded bits. The MPEG encoder > produces four main components of the image that the decoder > uses to reconstruct the image: Craig, you do have a way to introduce clueless arguments for the pure pleasure of disagreeing. I never said the MPEG process introiduces redundancy. Just try to follow the discusasion, please. I said the MPEG compression deliberately removes redundancy. That's how it works. But then the digital transmission system reintroduces redundancy in the bit stream, in the form of convolutional and block forward error correction. Get it? No reason to go on about how MPEG works. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.