[access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
- From: "Andrew Ireland" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:24:34 -0000
Hi All,
Personally I find chip and pin a wonderful system, and I haven't had any
problems. If you can use a telephone, you can use chip and pin.
Andrew
On 25 March 2006 10:46:Joe Hunter wrote:
> fortunately I can use both systems but my wife has difficulties with
> the pad due to arthritus but they have allowed us to use either
> system write or pin in. .
> joe.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:59 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
>
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> While I am glad of the information here, I do wish there wasn't such
>> a negative light shed on chip and pin. It is a great system, and a
>> better alternative than the signature in my view, which is easy to
>> forge. I do appreciate that some people can't use it, but there
>> seems to be this thing that the blind can't use it also. For
>> goodness' sake, it is just like dialing a telephone, and so long as
>> you remember the PIN, you're OK for the most part.
>>
>> An even better system I saw recently, was in the USA. They want a
>> piece of ID before you can use your credit card, such as a driving
>> licence, or passport. I thought this too was a good system.
>>
>> All the best
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of David Quarmby
>> Sent: 25 March 2006 08:09
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
>>
>> For information; please circulate
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Subject: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
>>
>>
>> The TUC has been supporting the Disability Rights Commission in its
>> work to prevent discrimination against disabled people - especially
>> learning disabled people - through the adoption of chip and pin
>> technology. Having failed to make real progress in discussion with
>> the banks etc, the DRC is now considering legal action if suitable
>> cases can be identified.
>>
>> They have asked the TUC for help in identifying individuals who may
>> have suffered discrimination through the failure of suppliers to
>> accept alternatives to Chip and Pin. They ask anyone with a possible
>> case to first contact the DRC Helpline, 08457 622633 (textphone
>> 08457 622644, fax 08457 778878) - helpline advisers will discuss the
>> case with the caller and if appropriate pass it on to the legal
>> team. Please can you circulate this information through any networks
>> and encourage anyone - especially a learning disabled member - with
>> a possible case, to contact the DRC helpline. Thanks,
>> Peter Purton
>> Policy Officer, Disability, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual Transgender Rights
>> Equality & Employment Rights Department, TUC tel. 020 7467 1271
>> email ppurton@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Visit the website www.tuc.org.uk/changingtimes
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