[Ilugc] [OT] Making SREC LUG active..
- From: vishnuvyas@xxxxxxxxx (vishnu vyas)
- Date: Thu Aug 11 00:08:54 2005
On 8/10/05, Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
--- vishnu vyas <vishnuvyas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
And secondly, most of them are not even interested
in looking at
further references to 'clearly explain concepts',
... because they are only interested in clearing exams
and getting marks, rather than understanding the
fundamentals.
Well, that was about the teachers, not students. And you really can't
explain fundamentals when even the teachers are unsure of what it
exactly is (I know I had difficulty with TOC.. if it was not for
wikipedia.. i wouldn't have even passed!).
Also, this might be a bit off-topic, but even the current curriculum
does not really show linux with all its power... Infact, most of them
are even unaware that linux has a powerful and completely functional
GUI. for eg, the only lab in which we wrote our programs in linux was
the so called "OS Lab", and we had to do it in bash with vi/emacs +
gcc. and most of the students tend to think that that all there is to
linux. and our Os book actually dedicates one whole section in a unit
on linux!.
We have to tell them what the industry is about.
Because the corporate guyz and HR are non-technical,
they _only_ see the marks. College students are
brainwashed into this trap.
Not particularly, I've spoken to a few of the HR, who visit for campus
recruitment, and one of them mentioned this to me point blank - ' We
are not looking at what you've learnt in the past 4 years, but rather
at what you haven't lost'. So they are atleast aware of the condition
of the colleges, etc..
exams, ask them to do E=mc2 derivation, they will not
be able to do it.
E=mc^2 in schools??
Even, with the source, most mature Free/Open Source
software (that
are usually bundled with distro's) are not very good
teaching tools,
I have to disagree. One of the best things about FLOSS
is the documentation. There are also lot of ways you
can get help from the community (mailing lists,
forums, IRC, google.com, ...).
Maybe I phrased it wrong, but.. here is what I tried to say..
I said mature tools, for eg, GCC is a really bad place to learn
compiler design, kernel 2.6.12 is a bad place to start learning about
"OS scheduling algorithms"(maybe 0.0.1, but not 2.6) . I am talking
about this kinda thing.. well you can always try out other simpler
compilers out there..and it might still be FLOSS, but you've to search
for it. So, that argument about 'FLOSS is a great place to learn about
CS' and hence ' I shall go forth and install debian sarge' do not
follow each other logically.. thats what I meant to say.. take for
example, a good place to start compiler design would be to look into
very simple implementations of languages without too much of a syntax
etc.. how many run of the mill distro's provide that?
But still thats no reason, not to go ahead and use the argument for
starting a LUG or spreading any form of linux awareness.
cheers
vishnu vyas
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